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    TojiSuzuhara's Avatar
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    Eros Cortado
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    Faerie
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    Machinist Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Purrnauskis View Post
    Not dying to mechanics and doing the properly to avoid damage is considered hostaging now? Interesting.
    i guess you missed the part where i mentioned there were new people to the fight. tell me you didn't read it without telling me you didn't read it
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    Marshmallow Puff
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    Excalibur
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    Warrior Lv 82
    Quote Originally Posted by Purrnauskis View Post
    Not dying to mechanics and doing the properly to avoid damage is considered hostaging now? Interesting.
    It’s being selfish. It’s easy to survive on a tank, especially warrior. Those same people would be dead on any other job. A bit of courtesy goes a long way.
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    Last edited by Toutatis; 08-05-2024 at 01:24 PM.

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    Puremallace's Avatar
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    Pure Mallace
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I do it all the time. We have some pretty decent self sustain but it is not some crazy thing. The guy here was probably geared with the latest stuff. It makes us look invincible lol

    We still die I promise you.
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    I do it all the time. We have some pretty decent self sustain but it is not some crazy thing. The guy here was probably geared with the latest stuff. It makes us look invincible lol
    That gear is barely relevant in Valigarmanda normal because it level syncs the gear. By extension this item level syncs it also. Provided you are even in level 95-97 leveling gear, you already outgear the fight and will sync down.

    We still die I promise you.
    Rarely. I had a healer die in expert a few times the other day. Duo'd a boss and continued to kill a big pull with the DPS as if the healer didn't matter, because they didn't.

    I do think it is ridiculous. I don't think there should be a specific type of attack that happens only when everyone else dies. But I think some very basic things should happen that used to happen in Heavensward:

    heavy auto attacks such that it cannot be handled by the tank alone and requires a healer, Ahk Morn stack markers that with enough frequency are beyond what the tank can realistically invuln and mit through, adds that themselves deal so many autos that if there isn't and OT and healers it's over.
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    Sage Cologne
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    Ravana
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    Culinarian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    I do it all the time. We have some pretty decent self sustain but it is not some crazy thing. The guy here was probably geared with the latest stuff. It makes us look invincible lol

    We still die I promise you.
    Tank will die during MK4 your gear and power tray avail you not ....
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    sagacious

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    Turtledeluxe's Avatar
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    Kinda Hungry
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    Siren
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Welcome to the team.

    Quote Originally Posted by Purrnauskis View Post
    Not dying to mechanics and doing the properly to avoid damage is considered hostaging now? Interesting.
    Too bad that isn't really what's happening with tanks.
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    Last edited by Turtledeluxe; 08-05-2024 at 08:50 AM.

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    Xelanar Fhey
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    Shiva
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Tanks should die to mechanics like everybody else instead of eating vulnerability stacks for breakfast or taking stack markers alone.
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    Turtledeluxe's Avatar
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    Kinda Hungry
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    Siren
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Xelanar View Post
    Tanks should die to mechanics like everybody else instead of eating vulnerability stacks for breakfast or taking stack markers alone.
    Problem is everything is tuned around hardcore. Only non disruptive option for casual content is, as someone else suggested, implementing a failsafe that kills tanks who do this.

    SE is unfortunately not going to moderate someone even if they griefed you for a half hour.
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    Chilled Sake
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    Brynhildr
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    Botanist Lv 100
    This is a tough one... it's more of a courtesy to make the right judgement call here. Tanks who just do it from a high percentage left are kinda just being rude. At the same time, if the group is dieing alot and not learning.. maybe the tank just wants to finish it. Square would have to introduce a mechanic to handle this or a timer. If tank is alive only for like 3 mins then reset the fight.

    But I'm sure that would piss off other people
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