Reverse WoW exodus

[CidHeiral]

It's weird because at one moment, 14 feels dead as hell. Maybe not in people afking, but like when you try to engage socially or try to be civil, this game is a corpse. I'm not talking about the 1000k people in a zone breaking the hunt train. I'm talking about the game. The queued up for frontline or msq or leveling. That game is dead. Anti-social. Anti new player, whatever you want to call it. Either out of contept or fear from moderation, this game is socially dead. Sure, your FC or your friend group are lovely, but your average player doesn't care.

That really isn't the case at all.

Your average party member is just in it for the reward. The joy of doing it is dead.

People have been motivated by rewards since the inception of the genre. Nobody was camping NMs for hours in FFXI for the "joy of doing it," they were doing it for the drops. That doesn't mean you can't still have fun and be social as well, which is very much still the case in FFXIV.

[EdwinChucklenuts]

I didn't buy Dawntrail because I didn't like how it looked and didn't have faith in the developers, I was going to wait. And sadly I was right, I'm not satisfied with what I'm seeing in gameplay or narrative.

My bf got it, hated it, and ended up putting it down at a certain point where you have to walk around a big empty places turning off things. He went back to playing WoW, even. Which is bad. He isn't a long time WoW player or anything either, but I also think I'm going to check it out too to play with him instead of on FFXIV.

So, how about a reverse exodus? To anywhere really, any game you'd rather play than Dawntrail. May as well make it a boycott. No sense in wasting my time forcing myself to play something I don't care for like Dawntrail. The FFXIV fanbase is pretty blindly loyal though.

I think this is exactly what you all should do!! I've kinda hated this community since the WoW players came over

[TheMightyMollusk]

you know that you dont have to buy expansions beside of the new one right ?

I did say I had no idea, so no, I didn't know.

[Pepperblue]

I'm gonna try WoW now after 20 years but only because I heard they have dragon people now

[AstrumRemi]

I'm probably going to hop over to FFXI, I'll still do raid content here, but the MSQ is just horrible this expansion, I'd rather listen to a fork scratching a plate than sit through anymore of the MSQ if Wuk lamat is involved.

[Equitable_Remedy]

It’s funny because the WoW community is currently complaining about the state of the pre-patch and what can be expected from TWW.

Doomerism is, generally, the dominant mode on all social media about everything. While this forum is a doomer dumpster fire, that's not at all unique to FF14.

[Y2K21]

Doomerism is, generally, the dominant mode on all social media about everything. While this forum is a doomer dumpster fire, that's not at all unique to FF14.

Every GD is a dumpster fire.

[CuteBucket]

I think FFXIV is entering it's enshittification arc. It's the cycle of so many nice products and services in the world, unfortunately. All there is to do is hope that the company sees the warning signs and chances course, or abandon ship to another new online service while its still good and see how long you can ride that one out before it too gets enshittified.

[Y2K21]

Anyone remember hanging around WoW's General Discussion forums in early MoP when everyone was talking about how the dumb pandas were for babies and MoP was going to kill WoW? And how it's now one of the most beloved expansions and no one seems to recall how absolutely reviled it was at the time?

New expac bad, old expac good has been the meme for a while. Expect to see Shadowlands in a similar light (people already tried to do it in Dragonflight).

[Nebelheim]

That really isn't the case at all.



People have been motivated by rewards since the inception of the genre. Nobody was camping NMs for hours in FFXI for the "joy of doing it," they were doing it for the drops. That doesn't mean you can't still have fun and be social as well, which is very much still the case in FFXIV.

Camping nms back in the day might have been "boring" and not fun but at least the community and making new friends and talking to people is what made things fun and made the wait more tolerable then it would be if we had a similar system in ff14 where no one really seems to want to talk unless your in a discord call or server because no one wants to use in game chat in games anymore.