Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
It's weird because at one moment, 14 feels dead as hell. Maybe not in people afking, but like when you try to engage socially or try to be civil, this game is a corpse. I'm not talking about the 1000k people in a zone breaking the hunt train. I'm talking about the game. The queued up for frontline or msq or leveling. That game is dead. Anti-social. Anti new player, whatever you want to call it. Either out of contept or fear from moderation, this game is socially dead. Sure, your FC or your friend group are lovely, but your average player doesn't care.
That really isn't the case at all.

Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
Your average party member is just in it for the reward. The joy of doing it is dead.
People have been motivated by rewards since the inception of the genre. Nobody was camping NMs for hours in FFXI for the "joy of doing it," they were doing it for the drops. That doesn't mean you can't still have fun and be social as well, which is very much still the case in FFXIV.