7.0 Graphic Update - Lalafell Feedback (please give me back my smudge!!)

[Vuro]

How are we feeling, Lalafell WoLs? I was very optimistic about the graphics update while viewing all the pre-release material, but now that we finally get to play with the new character creator...Personally, I'm really not happy.



My skin color is much greener, but I'm sure I can find a different skintone closer to the old one. I'm also not a fan of the thinner eyebrows/upper eye-lashes, but I can live with that. What I can't abide by, however, is that they stole the dark smudge on my nose!! While it's still technically a facial feature, the difference between smudge/no smudge is much harder to see now. ...but only for females.



The males got to keep their darker noses! I don't want to use a Fantasia in order to keep mine. In general, the girls' face is SO SHINY compared to the boys', and I don't understand why. Are we just assuming that because my WoL's a female, she moisturizes hourly? This gender difference seems extremely arbitrary. Devs, please tone down the shine and give back my dark nose. This part is probably not feasible, but something that would be ideal is if we could get the "light, dark, none" toggle for this particular facial feature, like we have for face paint and lip color.

EDIT 6/3/24: The smudge has been restored! <3

Current (6.55) → Benchmark v1 → Benchmark v2

[Kelg]

Lalafell faces have some weird broken/jagged model parts on the cheeks under the eyes on all of the jaw options except the fat cheeks :S I hope they redo this. Also please make the Dunesfolk eyes look closer to how they look in the current game, somehow the new ones look darker most of the time. Other than this, they look pretty good.

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[KhujaRela]

Dissappointed falls short on how I feel about my lalafell changes...
She's been stripped of all life force, personality, and appearance

-Eyes dead, no shine, also why now you can see the pupil? She is supposed to be a Dunesfolk, all the eye should look yellow and bright.

-Lips have changed shape and shine, now they are like a stripe of paint, she also lost her smile?? why

-She has dark circles under her eyes now, why?? She looks like she hasn't sleep in 3 days

-Hair looks like plastic strings...

I honestly don't understand all these changes, and I don't like it, I'm sad and frustrated, specially on the eyes and lips, changed their face completely

[Evergrey]

Their true nature is just coming up to the surface for all to see.
Soulless, evil potatoes. /s

[rawmeatpie]

✧I genuinely was hoping that we would get an improvement on the lips, mainly focused on exaggerating and making them much more fuller than before! I'm glad that I am not the only one who was disappointed with the reduced lips.
It feels as if Lalafell's features got waaay too smoothed out when in reality the lalafell player base wished for more exaggerated features. The lips are look practically the same now with how they were smoothed down, facial textures as well-mainly on face 3 with the freckles. I believe the eyes could also do good with a bit more shapeliness and exaggeration.

As a whole everything is translating mostly well, though another expectation that the players had for this update were also more facial feature options as well. Though understand time crunch-hopefully it's something we can get in a later update after we see an improvement on the current new models.

✗Current issues that I am personally seeing with lalafell updated models.
-eyelashes aren't ass dense and the texture above is a bit ashy on dark skin tones
-lips needed more fullness and exaggeration
-eye SHAPES have translated well, BUT have been smoothed out a bit too much when we need more definition to them. Stronger slants/curves/droopiness/etc.
-nose darkening setting doesn't actually darken the nose but lightens it-would be wonderful as two separate options though
-face 3's gradient isn't smooth as it should be with the nose

So far things have been turning out really well! I have a lot of suggestions like others but I would like to focus my current opinion on the way lalafells are presented in the game!

Dissappointed falls short on how I feel about my lalafell changes...
She's been stripped of all life force, personality, and appearance

-Eyes dead, no shine, also why now you can see the pupil? She is supposed to be a Dunesfolk, all the eye should look yellow and bright.

-Lips have changed shape and shine, now they are like a stripe of paint, she also lost her smile?? why

-She has dark circles under her eyes now, why?? She looks like she hasn't sleep in 3 days

-Hair looks like plastic strings...

I honestly don't understand all these changes, and I don't like it, I'm sad and frustrated, specially on the eyes and lips, changed their face completely

[Souljacker]

They somehow made the actual child-like race look more like dolls than ever.

There is some weird direction going on at SE these days.

[Casti_EL]

I quite like the changes for mine overall (I suppose it depends on personal preference and creation choices - not all seem to have benefited from the changes).

He seems a little more grown up and in the benchmark itself the hair looked a lot better. I think the one thing I don't like is the smoothness of the skin - there's almost no texture/imperfections, making it almost porcelain like.

https://imgur.com/a/Ba5uBl9
https://imgur.com/a/F7sJm8x

[HermitUK]

The changes don't look as strange from an angle, but face-on they look particularly odd. These are comparison shots from current character creator vs benchmark:





Main things that stood out to me were:
1. The new mouths look weird; Type 02 in the new version is a closer match for the current Type 01 than the new Type 01 is.
2. Some of the jawlines have changed; type 2 looks like it's chubbier on the sides and has a flatter bottom than the more rounded lower jaw at present. I think this contributes to the mouths looking odd.
3. The old noses are button-like, but the new one has a long bridge which changes the profile of the face. Less noticable face-on, but it contributes to the nose looking flatter in the new version even though it's the same size. Very obvious if you compare from the side.
4. The new eyelash design is awful. The upper lashes now curl around the eye rather than ending in a point as they used to (this is what's causing the dead eyes, I think). The lower lashes are now poorly defined and look like a smudge under the eye rather than lashes. You can also see the eye shape has changed a bit which makes this more obvious / look worse

At this point I'd guess there's minimal time left for fixing these things, but it's disappointing more care wasn't taken to match like for like.

[LianaThorne]

The changes don't look as strange from an angle, but face-on they look particularly odd. These are comparison shots from current character creator vs benchmark:





Main things that stood out to me were:
1. The new mouths look weird; Type 02 in the new version is a closer match for the current Type 01 than the new Type 01 is.
2. Some of the jawlines have changed; type 2 looks like it's chubbier on the sides and has a flatter bottom than the more rounded lower jaw at present. I think this contributes to the mouths looking odd.
3. The old noses are button-like, but the new one has a long bridge which changes the profile of the face. Less noticable face-on, but it contributes to the nose looking flatter in the new version even though it's the same size. Very obvious if you compare from the side.
4. The new eyelash design is awful. The upper lashes now curl around the eye rather than ending in a point as they used to (this is what's causing the dead eyes, I think). The lower lashes are now poorly defined and look like a smudge under the eye rather than lashes. You can also see the eye shape has changed a bit which makes this more obvious / look worse

At this point I'd guess there's minimal time left for fixing these things, but it's disappointing more care wasn't taken to match like for like.

Ahhh so I wasn't hallucinating that some characters faces looked chubbier...interesting.