Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
In Bard’s defense besides constant (raid) buffs Bard actually gets neither mitigation nor healing lol, if you remove its raid buffs it’s actually an awful support compared to the rest. Lolheal boost and lolesuna really aren’t the most valuable utility tools sadly…and that’s it outside role skills lol.

Makes you wonder what SE even deems as a ‘support job’ these days. They say phys ranged is the ‘support’ dps role yet Machinist exists. They say nothing about casters being the actual support classes then there’s Summoner and Red Mage. Like, do the devs genuinely think Machinist/Dancer/Bard can rival the on-demand healing/raise, (near) constant mobility, decent raid buffs etc that Summoner and Red Mage have? Hell you could throw Pictomancer in there too. Tempera Grassa is infinitely bette than Nature’s Minne lol.

Even if they did decide to go all-in on Machinist as a support, what’s even the point when all it can get is fairly useless utility and maybe some raid buffs almost every job in the game gets. If they go all-in with it as a pure selfish dps, how can it ever reach that goal when it’s balanced in the ‘supporters’ role? It’s like poor Machinists can’t win either way lol (honestly Bards too, Dancer at least has some healing and an awful HP shield lol)
Bard gets mitigation. Troubadour is 15% party-wide mitigation.