Page 1 of 5 1 2 3 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 43
  1. #1
    Player
    UNDEAD10000's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    151
    Character
    Yunao Arun
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100

    Fear getting banned for being bad tank.

    Today i will stop playing tank (i mostly played as paladin) completely because now i started fear getting banned for being bad tank when i have always hard time staying alive as tank in any group content.

    Using self sustain skills and mitigation skills won't help either when once i used them and their effect is gone i 99% of time die on wall to wall pulls and boss fights in any content.
    (0)
    Last edited by UNDEAD10000; 08-05-2024 at 03:51 AM.

  2. #2
    Player
    Nero-Voidstails's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2023
    Posts
    854
    Character
    Nero Tsukimi
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by UNDEAD10000 View Post
    Today i will stop playing tank completely because now i started fear getting banned for being bad tank when i have always hard time staying alive as tank in any group content.

    Using self sustain skills and mitigation skills won't help either when once i used them and their effect is gone i 99% of time die on wall to wall pulls and boss fights in any content.
    have you tried to small pulls then getting use to it? are you using arm length and reprisal? with tank?
    (2)

  3. #3
    Player
    Mikey_R's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    1,507
    Character
    Mike Aettir
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    You cannot bet banned for 'being bad', however, it is worth noting that staying alive as a tank relies on 2 people, the tank and the healer, as long as they work together, things will be fine.

    General tips are to spread out your cooldowns, do not dump them all in one go and you can use your weaker mits as the packs get smaller.

    However, without knowing which tank you play or exactly how you are managing the pulls, it is going to be harder to give specific advice.
    (10)

  4. #4
    Player
    Nero-Voidstails's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2023
    Posts
    854
    Character
    Nero Tsukimi
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
    You cannot bet banned for 'being bad', however, it is worth noting that staying alive as a tank relies on 2 people, the tank and the healer, as long as they work together, things will be fine.

    General tips are to spread out your cooldowns, do not dump them all in one go and you can use your weaker mits as the packs get smaller.

    However, without knowing which tank you play or exactly how you are managing the pulls, it is going to be harder to give specific advice.
    some people still forget arms length and reprisal like when I play all other tank then darknight those two are use together and when I play darknight I use reprisal then oblation and then arm length and oblation so ya it does change heavily like you said
    (3)

  5. #5
    Player
    Zakuyia's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2022
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    597
    Character
    Zakuyia Shizyuie
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    have you tried to small pulls then getting use to it? are you using arm length and reprisal? with tank?
    Now you know better than to ask if ppl are using arms length when even the high end tanks dont mitigate lol
    (1)


    You open the door theres nothing in sight. You close the door wondering whats in sight. But lets be honest its probably gonna just let you down.

  6. #6
    Player
    Nero-Voidstails's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2023
    Posts
    854
    Character
    Nero Tsukimi
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zakuyia View Post
    Now you know better than to ask if ppl are using arms length when even the high end tanks dont mitigate lol
    I haven't done any lol haha due to the fact it's hard finding a static and pf is pf haha but ya apparently it's a basic thing as I have heard xx)
    (1)

  7. #7
    Player
    Post's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Posts
    481
    Character
    Larc Grumbles
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 80
    OP, self sustain and mitigation are the only things that help other than maximizing your damage by grouping enemies together or using sprint before combat so you can organize all the enemies quickly (and reduce time you're taking hits before the DPS can tear into em). If you're getting taken down AFTER using mits, they're doing their job. Just don't wait to use them until your health is low, unless it's something meant to be used to heal like Equilibrium or Abyssal Drain. Rampart works better with more HP in your bar so your healer has more time to keep you healthy.

    You can also move around out of range of the enemies and kite a bit if the enemies are still alive and you're all out of defensive actions. It's not too hard to juke enemies a little and reduce how often they're swinging, which can give your healer time to get vital casts to heal you and DPS a little extra time to finish off enemies.

    This isn't the first choice just because if enemies are moving some jobs and players have a harder time maximizing their damage on them, but it's a very effective way to live in a tight spot. Especially with sprint, it can even buy you time for your own cooldowns to return. Just don't out range yourself from your healers as you're dodging around.
    (1)

  8. #8
    Player
    UNDEAD10000's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    151
    Character
    Yunao Arun
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    have you tried to small pulls then getting use to it? are you using arm length and reprisal? with tank?
    I have tried doing smaller pull but that will make other party members very angry and party members start rush ahead without me.
    I use reprisal all the time and i mostly use arm's length against boss knockback and draw-in effects.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
    You cannot bet banned for 'being bad', however, it is worth noting that staying alive as a tank relies on 2 people, the tank and the healer, as long as they work together, things will be fine.

    General tips are to spread out your cooldowns, do not dump them all in one go and you can use your weaker mits as the packs get smaller.

    However, without knowing which tank you play or exactly how you are managing the pulls, it is going to be harder to give specific advice.
    I mostly played as paladin and i always spread out mitigation cooldowns depending on situation but i still have very hard time staying alive and in any content where i can use clemency healing skill, i have to use it all the time to keep my self alive when healing from expiacion/imperator combo and holy sheltron is not enough to keep me alive.

    Currently my paladin is at level 100 with item level at 696.
    (0)

  9. #9
    Player
    Commander_Justitia's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    1,101
    Character
    Ash Primordial
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by UNDEAD10000 View Post
    I mostly played as paladin and i always spread out mitigation cooldowns depending on situation but i still have very hard time staying alive and in any content where i can use clemency healing skill, i have to use it all the time to keep my self alive when healing from expiacion/imperator combo and holy sheltron is not enough to keep me alive.

    Currently my paladin is at level 100 with item level at 696.
    Then blame your healer. You are doing nothing wrong. I could heal you even if you do no mitigation, if your healer rather deals damage even if you use mitigation and you still die, it is his fault. Some healer are greedy with damage, if they see you use clemency, it is like a sign for them to not heal you, because you seem newbie then, that you rather heal yourself than to deal damage. Only heal yourself when you drop under 25%.

    Wait a few secs of damage before you use a mitigation buff, so you drop under 80% HP at least. Then you can use sentinel, that is usually enough for 10s and your holy sheltron etc. After you could rampart + another tiny one like reprisal, if you are still dropping and mobs above 50% then add arms length or bulwark. If mobs still above 50% after you had 30-35s of mitigation, then your damage dealers probably underperform, tell them to aoe if you notice they do single target... Pop hallowed ground and pull 1 pack less next pull unless it is getting easier.

    Food gives you around 10% more HP. Using arms length on boss is fine but if mobs hit hard keep it for them. Usually boss damage is not high.
    (2)

  10. #10
    Player
    Nero-Voidstails's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2023
    Posts
    854
    Character
    Nero Tsukimi
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia View Post
    Then blame your healer. You are doing nothing wrong. I could heal you even if you do no mitigation, if your healer rather deals damage even if you use mitigation and you still die, it is his fault. Some healer are greedy with damage, if they see you use clemency, it is like a sign for them to not heal you, because you seem newbie then, that you rather heal yourself than to deal damage. Only heal yourself when you drop under 25%.

    Wait a few secs of damage before you use a mitigation buff, so you drop under 80% HP at least. Then you can use sentinel, that is usually enough for 10s and your holy sheltron etc. After you could rampart + another tiny one like reprisal, if you are still dropping and mobs above 50% then add arms length or bulwark. If mobs still above 50% after you had 30-35s of mitigation, then your damage dealers probably underperform, tell them to aoe if you notice they do single target... Pop hallowed ground and pull 1 pack less next pull unless it is getting easier.

    Food gives you around 10% more HP. Using arms length on boss is fine but if mobs hit hard keep it for them. Usually boss damage is not high.
    I agree here
    (1)

Page 1 of 5 1 2 3 ... LastLast