Kind of funny since you never speedrun AV/CC before and your garuda kill is probably BLM burned. LolLmfao, If either of you two showed up DRG or PLD for any actual endgame content like CC speed runs, AV speed runs, Garuda ETC with any competent group of players actually capable of winning you would be laughed at.
The fact that you don't know this, or are in denial makes you look even worse. The fact that the two of you have never even cleared non speed run CC or Garuda also makes any of your opinions on the subject completely unreliable.
I don't get offended easily, I usually just respond with snarky posts to people who are snarky to me to begin with for fun. In this case however, I'm actually offended by how stupid both of you are.
I mean sure with a very skilled player you can pull of drg or pld, but why bother when the jobs suck so bad and you could be doing better on something else. If either of you were on my server, I would bet 20mil I could out parse either of you on your DRG's with my BLM naked on any end game boss encounter.
I've finished them with out speed run many times, and I've even obtained some DL. I took a break from the game for a while to play d3, when I came back I obviously wasn't in my static anymore so I decided to focus on crafting instead. At least I still have clears, the other two didn't.
It's not like you have the speed runs and I don't or anything... you're April 29th Garuda kill was a BLM burn too undoubtedly.
The point still remains that seriously players don't take drg and pld seriously though.
But that's the last I'll say about that subject.
Mithra > Miqo'te: discuss.
Last edited by Mijin; 08-02-2012 at 10:22 PM.
Let me just say one thing, you will never get a relic without a presence of PLD or DRG in either 17m speedrun AV/CC or ifrit extreme. Even 2 DRG are norms these days for Garuda.
Next time you want to call people stupid, make sure you know what you are talking about because you are just making fool out of yourself right now.
Oh look, its this retarded thread again.
My ls was killing Garuda the day before yesterday they had 0 drgs in the group so I can whole wholeheartedly disagree with the statement that they are the norm.Let me just say one thing, you will never get a relic without a presence of PLD or DRG in either 17m speedrun AV/CC or ifrit extreme. Even 2 DRG are norms these days for Garuda.
The Aurum Vale SR5C 16.14mins - Miser's Mythril
FFXIV : A Relic Reborn - Cutter's Cry (16:10)
Setup
2x War, 1x WHM, 1x BRD. 4x BLM
At Chimera Boss:
1x PLD, 2x WHM, 5x BLM
Ifrit Extreme Defeated
No Dragoons were used for the making of this video either.
I'll admit, because I was aggravated I intentionally disregarded the fact that PLD's have like a hand full niche fights in the game where they are preferable. So your like half right at best. There is however, absolutely nothing you need DRG for in this game and no situation where another job cant do better.
The fact that you think I'm making my self look foolish is subjective, I disagree and think the situation is inverted on you. I guess that's what happens when people don't see eye to eye. Since you're so intent on discussing this though I'll make a new thread, considering the mods don't want people getting off topic.
Will DRG and PLD still be next to useless in 2.0? There I made a thread for it.
Last edited by Mijin; 08-02-2012 at 11:08 PM.
Why change names anyway? The names we have now are the names of the races we have here. I didn't play XI so i suppose my opinion here has no value to some.
I made a FF14 account to play FF14.
I play FF14 cause i like FF14 enough to keep playing.
If i wanted or want to play FF11 i would be playing FF11.
I understand liking a game you've played before..alot. This isn't that game.
If i was on FF11 forums asking to have things in FF11 changed to things in FF14. I somehow doubt you'd appritiate that.
I like hearing ideas about stuff like mechanics and cool things that can be worked into FF14. Not changing FF14 into the new FF11. This thread is the latter, not the prior.
The issue at hand is that Yoshi will destroy FFXIV at the rate he is going. It seems that Tanaka had the right idea compared to the direction Yoshi is taking it, (speculation at best) and by giving the players and or 1 group of players every damn thing they want. I have said it before and Ill say it again they could have use the same systems in FFXI and improved upon them greatly, but they didnt. What Yoshi has done has taken things from other games (imo should be used but to a lesser extent). At the rate Yoshi is going with all the easy mode crap this game has a high possiblity that 1-2 groups of player out of 3 will completely abandon it come 2.0 (casual, mid-hardcore and hardcore). Unfortunatly casuals come and go like water and once and if both mid and hardcore leaves, this game wont beable to sustain itself. There needs to be all 3 types of players and a balance to everything and not lean too far one way as this game is now currently doing. Here's to the hopes that 2.0 will accomplish something the dev's cant seem to accomplish in 1.0.
LOL wait what? You saying for cc, av, garuda and ifrit extrme my group needs to have a drg? I beg to differ my group has done av and cc and we are working on ifrit extrme w/o DRG's. Ifrit extrme the mnks can break both horn w/o an issue.Let me just say one thing, you will never get a relic without a presence of PLD or DRG in either 17m speedrun AV/CC or ifrit extreme. Even 2 DRG are norms these days for Garuda.
Next time you want to call people stupid, make sure you know what you are talking about because you are just making fool out of yourself right now.
Then stop playing. If you really think Yoshida is destroying this game and you really hate the direction it's going in, I would highly suggest you find another game to play. I'm not trying to be an ass here but the point of playing games should be to have fun and enjoy yourself. If this game isn't doing that for you and is only going further from that then perhaps it's not the game for you.The issue at hand is that Yoshi will destroy FFXIV at the rate he is going. It seems that Tanaka had the right idea compared to the direction Yoshi is taking it, (speculation at best) and by giving the players and or 1 group of players every damn thing they want. I have said it before and Ill say it again they could have use the same systems in FFXI and improved upon them greatly, but they didnt. What Yoshi has done has taken things from other games (imo should be used but to a lesser extent). At the rate Yoshi is going with all the easy mode crap this game has a high possiblity that 1-2 groups of player out of 3 will completely abandon it come 2.0 (casual, mid-hardcore and hardcore). Unfortunatly casuals come and go like water and once and if both mid and hardcore leaves, this game wont beable to sustain itself. There needs to be all 3 types of players and a balance to everything and not lean too far one way as this game is now currently doing. Here's to the hopes that 2.0 will accomplish something the dev's cant seem to accomplish in 1.0.
On topic though: The race names are fine as is. They have their own identities despite looking similar to the XI ones (like Roegadyn having females). This isn't XI, get over it.
I agree with you they should have just followed the path already carved out by XI instead of trying to reinvent the wheel. How much different do you think Blizzards next MMO will be from WoW. My guess is not very. FFXI-2 would have made a better game but I guess this is as close as its gonna get.The issue at hand is that Yoshi will destroy FFXIV at the rate he is going. It seems that Tanaka had the right idea compared to the direction Yoshi is taking it, (speculation at best) and by giving the players and or 1 group of players every damn thing they want. I have said it before and Ill say it again they could have use the same systems in FFXI and improved upon them greatly, but they didnt. What Yoshi has done has taken things from other games (imo should be used but to a lesser extent). At the rate Yoshi is going with all the easy mode crap this game has a high possiblity that 1-2 groups of player out of 3 will completely abandon it come 2.0 (casual, mid-hardcore and hardcore). Unfortunatly casuals come and go like water and once and if both mid and hardcore leaves, this game wont beable to sustain itself. There needs to be all 3 types of players and a balance to everything and not lean too far one way as this game is now currently doing. Here's to the hopes that 2.0 will accomplish something the dev's cant seem to accomplish in 1.0.
It's possible to find great fault in things and still consider them the most desirable option available. That's how I feel about XIV. Maybe he does too. I will complain to great extent about things I think are stupid, but I still love MMO's and this is the best option out for my taste right now. I would rather be shot in the stomach and left to slowly bleed to death than play WoW, but that doesn't mean I think XIV is perfect.
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