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  1. #1
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    Elizasylen's Avatar
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    Senba Torii
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    Sargatanas
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    Warrior Lv 100

    Please stop putting Piety on gear

    If I really really actually need it I'll meld it. Just stop putting it on there.
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    Naychan's Avatar
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    Naychan Le'mew
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    Coeurl
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Elizasylen View Post
    If I really really actually need it I'll meld it. Just stop putting it on there.
    Ok, I will bite. What is the reasoning behind this? If its on the gear your dont take up materia slots?
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    Alice Rivers
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    It's a complete waste of stat points, it does nothing for decent healer, it is to healers as tenacity is to tanks - only worse since (while objectively worse than determination) tenacity does have some useful effects. By the time a couple of dozen mp regen is useful something is very wrong and you're going to burn that mp too fast for it to have any impact, making piety useless, and if you don't do enough healing to need more mp regen then it's useless anyway. Ergo - piety is useless and we shouldn't have it forced on our gear.
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Piety is the only stat that makes you drop your iLv if possible lol.

    Look at that Savage/Aug tome boots vs NR boots from this tier.
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Naychan View Post
    Ok, I will bite. What is the reasoning behind this? If its on the gear your dont take up materia slots?
    Because piety is such a bad stat it’s actually a DPS increase to run lower ilvl gear to avoid having it on your gear

    Right now the 710 normal raid boots are BIS over both the 730 tomestone and savage boots because both the 730 pieces have piety as their main stat
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Because piety is such a bad stat it’s actually a DPS increase to run lower ilvl gear to avoid having it on your gear

    Right now the 710 normal raid boots are BIS over both the 730 tomestone and savage boots because both the 730 pieces have piety as their main stat
    SGE gloves are also BiS for damage if you use crafted instead. I thought 10ilv difference in rings was funny in p9s-12s healer bis, yet square enix broke my expectations again by nerfing piety and making 20ilvs below raid gear the current bis for some healers.
    At this point I find it impressive.
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  7. #7
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    Naychan Le'mew
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    Coeurl
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Because piety is such a bad stat it’s actually a DPS increase to run lower ilvl gear to avoid having it on your gear

    Right now the 710 normal raid boots are BIS over both the 730 tomestone and savage boots because both the 730 pieces have piety as their main stat
    Fair point, since im not doing high end raiding anymore I have not really paid attention. But asking them to drop piety is like asking a wishing well for a wish. Neither the well or SQE actually listen to anybody and it does not fit in with their design of making healers dull AF. But I wish you all luck with your request.
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    Connor Whelan
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 100
    I mean, it wouldn’t be an issue if piety wasn’t a trash stat lol. Idk what it should be but it needs to be better. There shouldn’t be stats whose sole purpose is ‘ignore this and go meld a stat intended specifically for DPS’ lol
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    Videra Svenay
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 83
    Quote Originally Posted by Naychan View Post
    Ok, I will bite. What is the reasoning behind this? If its on the gear your dont take up materia slots?
    Because piety is a trash stat. It is actively worse to wear a 730 piece than a 710 piece if it has piety on it, at the moment.
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    Reinhardt Azureheim
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    Alpha
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    ...how about instead of complaining about Piety existing on gear, we ask for Piety to actually behave like Tenacity for tanks and actually have 80-90% of the damage gains of Determination?
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