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  1. #121
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    Bellybell's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xellith View Post
    Yeah I enjoy the raids, but I dont think doing them about 4 times a week is worth 10 bucks a month lol.

    (ps. How long does it take for the forum to kick me off? I havent been subbed for a week)
    too bad, i also have friends to do more quirky things in there, not just laboring yourself to weekly reward.
    you should too, try having friends, that is
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  2. #122
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    "The political brainrot thread you ordered madam. Bone apple teeth."

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    The menacing aura of every Lalafell.

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    Hm... i don`t know. But DT to woke? lets see. Wuk Lamat is the only female lead charakter. Posible but not realy. Lets look ant ARR... hm... Leader of Limsa Merlwyb, Leader of Gridania Kan-E-Senna, Leader of Ul'dah Nanamo. Yeah DT is way too woke. (Thats sarkasm for those who don't understand)
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  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasasagi View Post
    Hm... i don`t know. But DT to woke? lets see. Wuk Lamat is the only female lead charakter. Posible but not realy. Lets look ant ARR... hm... Leader of Limsa Merlwyb, Leader of Gridania Kan-E-Senna, Leader of Ul'dah Nanamo. Yeah DT is way too woke. (Thats sarkasm for those who don't understand)
    It's important to remember that people who complain about "woke" are just using the word "woke" to cover for their preferred racist or bigoted slur.
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  5. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrForester View Post
    It's important to remember that people who complain about "woke" are just using the word "woke" to cover for their preferred racist or bigoted slur.
    Woke meant something positiv once. Now its mostly used in a negativ sense.
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  6. #126
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    this bait is trash
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  7. #127
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    Imagine saying all that about a Japanese corporation.
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  8. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrForester View Post
    It's important to remember that people who complain about "woke" are just using the word "woke" to cover for their preferred racist or bigoted slur.
    "This is my opinion and it's the right one, if you disagree you're a bigot !"
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  9. #129
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    To be frank, I hate the progression of woke ideology into gaming media: that's a conversation I would have with people. But that being said...

    I'm sorry my man, I don't see much wokeness permeating FFXIV. Cat-lyse being played by the VA she's played by isn't a problem or a woke agenda; I don't like Cat-lyse, but it has little to do with the VA. Outside of that I don't really see any other problematic woke things working their way into FFXIV, and I say that because I've been cautiously watching.

    We've seen gay characters sure, but that's not woke that's just reality: Some folk are gay, that harms no one. We've seen a push for peaceful resolutions, but that's not wokeism either. There being androgynous characters in the mana games also doesn't really strike me as woke. The Densetsu games have always had young characters, typically a bit too young to be these hulking muscle masses of men or voluptuous curvey women: this is just because it's the beginning of a heroes journey from a child into adulthood, a repeated background message in those stories. Children do not tend to sport six packs or G-cups, and I'm glad they remember that; would be creepy if they didn't.

    If a character showed up in FF14 and made me take a walk away from the Main story to hear about their personal struggle with implications of how brave they are and how I should pause saving the world to hug them and recognize the truth of their identity, we'd have something to talk about. But that doesn't happen. The game preaches what the game devs decide was the 'correct' choice as being a moral absolute in a frusterating way sure, but that's also not wokeism.

    And for anyone who would argue the above example is what cat-lyse did, no she did not. She sidelines, interrupted, and otherwise monopolized our time like a greedy child, but that's also not wokeism. That's just poor character design being over-represented in an intern-level plea for validation of the story writing.

    Sorry to see you go guy, sorry to see anyone go honestly, but I don't see a wokeism problem in SE to date. Perhaps they'll prove me wrong one day, but right now I don't see sufficient evidence for that claim.
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    Last edited by Sivante; 08-04-2024 at 04:00 AM. Reason: Changed to 'Cat-lyse' as reference.

  10. #130
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    Anrui Mydia
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    Define woke
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