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    Reraise

    I think there is a case to be made for adding a self-cast reraise to the healer toolkit.

    In light party content, tanks and dps have the luxury of being able to die without it being a total wipe. This isn't the case for healers, which in my opinion, holds back what could be the development of more engaging small group content.
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    Personally I’d rather see them make Raise accessible to more classes. Honestly if they gave phys ranged a raise it would solve a lot of the issues. I mean, the chances of not getting a Summoner or Red Mage are fairly likely. But the odds of not having a single Summoner, Red Mage, Bard, Dancer or Machinist is much less likely. It’d also means healers can have more diversified dps options if they’re under less pressure as a role
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    In the past there were some cross class skill options. I really miss that.
    I always skilled my Paladin with raise. When I came back to the game after a break my raise was gone because they dumped down the system. I still feel robbed.

    Not everyone was able to cross-skill raise but if I remember right then all tanks could.
    And I also think that raise suits Paladin very well. : )
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    Reraise isn't suited for high-end content, isn't needed in healer-inundated normal 8-mans, and healers barely even die in level cap dungeons for reasons already acknowledged. It's also a defeatist action that sets you up to get KO'd.

    Every time the cross class Raise gets brought up it really sounds like rose-tinted glasses. You couldn't use it in battle or swiftcast it, and you already had a Conjurer leveled so you wouldn't use it outside of duties either.

    Also, if it were even possible to balance 4/5 roles having raises they would have to at least be on long cooldowns, especially if DoW raises wouldn't need to be swiftcast.

    Overall...no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    Personally I’d rather see them make Raise accessible to more classes. Honestly if they gave phys ranged a raise it would solve a lot of the issues. I mean, the chances of not getting a Summoner or Red Mage are fairly likely. But the odds of not having a single Summoner, Red Mage, Bard, Dancer or Machinist is much less likely. It’d also means healers can have more diversified dps options if they’re under less pressure as a role
    Are they then going to tax a class like Machinist for having a Rez even more than it already is - as it's nearly dead last in desirability already?

    I'd rather healers get their own re-raise that requires some careful thought into it's use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Are they then going to tax a class like Machinist for having a Rez even more than it already is - as it's nearly dead last in desirability already?

    I'd rather healers get their own re-raise that requires some careful thought into it's use.
    I am main MCH for years now and I really don't care. I go on playing MCH. If they make me worse, then so be it. x3
    I guess it will be the same as in EW. They buff it almost every bigger patch until it's too much. But then they leave it like this until next Exp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Are they then going to tax a class like Machinist for having a Rez even more than it already is - as it's nearly dead last in desirability already?

    I'd rather healers get their own re-raise that requires some careful thought into it's use.
    Give BRD and DNC the raises, and give MCH bigger damage instead. It's a greedy dps like SAM and BLM (and VPR too now), so let it do comparable damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lck0ut View Post
    Give BRD and DNC the raises, and give MCH bigger damage instead. It's a greedy dps like SAM and BLM (and VPR too now), so let it do comparable damage.
    Nooooo. keep raise away from BRD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mallleable View Post
    Nooooo. keep raise away from BRD.

    Saving an Ifrit extreme raid when all the healers were dead with BRD LB3 raise was always a great feeling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    Personally I’d rather see them make Raise accessible to more classes.
    It would be really funny if they gave Warrior a raise and it's just them somehow reviving a party member by screaming at them to get up.
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