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    Reraise

    I think there is a case to be made for adding a self-cast reraise to the healer toolkit.

    In light party content, tanks and dps have the luxury of being able to die without it being a total wipe. This isn't the case for healers, which in my opinion, holds back what could be the development of more engaging small group content.
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    Personally I’d rather see them make Raise accessible to more classes. Honestly if they gave phys ranged a raise it would solve a lot of the issues. I mean, the chances of not getting a Summoner or Red Mage are fairly likely. But the odds of not having a single Summoner, Red Mage, Bard, Dancer or Machinist is much less likely. It’d also means healers can have more diversified dps options if they’re under less pressure as a role
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    yep, let off load healers responsibility even more shall we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayer2015 View Post
    In light party content, tanks and dps have the luxury of being able to die without it being a total wipe. This isn't the case for healers
    It is absolutely the case for healers, because it's rare to need a healer to complete light party content. Tanks just have too much self-sustain for healers to matter most of the time.

    And heck, sometimes even DPS can stay alive without a healer. I've seen healers die half-way through most of the fights in the current Expert dungeons, and when the boss dies there's often still a DPS standing alongside the tank.

    As long as healers aren't needed to survive, healers dying won't result in a total wipe.
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    Last edited by LilimoLimomo; 08-03-2024 at 05:43 AM. Reason: phrasing

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    In the past there were some cross class skill options. I really miss that.
    I always skilled my Paladin with raise. When I came back to the game after a break my raise was gone because they dumped down the system. I still feel robbed.

    Not everyone was able to cross-skill raise but if I remember right then all tanks could.
    And I also think that raise suits Paladin very well. : )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    yep, let off load healers responsibility even more shall we?

    /s
    Literally the main reason healers aren’t allowed responsibility is that parties might potentially wipe because bad heals or whatever. If they allow other jobs to assist with those responsibilities that also gives them freedom to tune them much higher than what we currently have which is ultimately going to mean more engagement for healers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    Personally I’d rather see them make Raise accessible to more classes. Honestly if they gave phys ranged a raise it would solve a lot of the issues. I mean, the chances of not getting a Summoner or Red Mage are fairly likely. But the odds of not having a single Summoner, Red Mage, Bard, Dancer or Machinist is much less likely. It’d also means healers can have more diversified dps options if they’re under less pressure as a role
    Are they then going to tax a class like Machinist for having a Rez even more than it already is - as it's nearly dead last in desirability already?

    I'd rather healers get their own re-raise that requires some careful thought into it's use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Are they then going to tax a class like Machinist for having a Rez even more than it already is - as it's nearly dead last in desirability already?

    I'd rather healers get their own re-raise that requires some careful thought into it's use.
    I am main MCH for years now and I really don't care. I go on playing MCH. If they make me worse, then so be it. x3
    I guess it will be the same as in EW. They buff it almost every bigger patch until it's too much. But then they leave it like this until next Exp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    Literally the main reason healers aren’t allowed responsibility is that parties might potentially wipe because bad heals or whatever. If they allow other jobs to assist with those responsibilities that also gives them freedom to tune them much higher than what we currently have which is ultimately going to mean more engagement for healers.
    This is such a bad take I don't even know where to explain. Healer's main responsibility has already been largely delegated due to the rediculous amount of party healing.

    But ok I'll bite, instead of using buzzwords like responsibilities and freedom and engagement, how about you give me some specific example. But be warned, if it's not something healer specific and just "moar DPS", I don't want to hear it 'cause I alreayd hear it 10 millions time before.
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    Last edited by Raven2014; 08-03-2024 at 05:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayer2015 View Post
    I think there is a case to be made for adding a self-cast reraise to the healer toolkit.

    In light party content, tanks and dps have the luxury of being able to die without it being a total wipe. This isn't the case for healers, which in my opinion, holds back what could be the development of more engaging small group content.
    I think something like this could be helpful, giving it a like
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