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    Morr_Ar's Avatar
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    Morrigan Arseid
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    Omega
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    Viper Lv 100

    Please continue making Viper adjustments

    After sleeping on it, I’ve come to realise the error in my previous analysis, and I want to thank the Job designers for their adjustments made to Viper. Thanks to the NG removal, Viper has been made into a more accessible job.

    But I implore the Job Designers not to stop here, the hard work is truly only beginning. With that in mind, I wanted to constructively suggest more adjustments that would continue to make Viper more fun for everyone.

    1. While removing NG has decreased the stress of debuff uptime on VPR, we still unfortunately have two personal buffs that need to be maintained all of the time. We could make these baseline to the job, with potency increases and a trait similar to Monk’s greased lightning. The end result would effectively be the same, in terms of the buttons the player presses and damage output, so this would be a positive change.

    2. After careful studying of the tooltips, I’ve noticed that Steel Fangs and Reaving Fangs actually do the same thing, just buffing the opposite skill. Would it not be easier to use the exciting new Action Change Setting to automatically alter the same keybind to Steel Fangs or Reaving Fangs automatically based on the buff the player currently has? That would help players struggling to hit the correct combo starter.

    3. Based on suggestion number one, there would be no need to have separate keybinds for the Vicewinder follow up Weaponskills (since we reduced the cognitive burden on players to choose which buff to reapply first), so we could again use the Action Change Settings to automatically change our Vicewinder keybind into the follow up skills, reducing the rotational complexity.

    4. Reawaken’s weaponskills could also be a single keybind under the Action Change settings, given that we always want to press the weaponskills in the same order.

    I think these would go a long way towards making Viper a more welcoming job for all players in the FFXIV community.
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    Embio Harvey
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    Lamia
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Good suggestions, but these are only the beginning steps of VPR reaching its full potential and final form, the defacto job gameplay not just in FFXIV, but all of MMO's:

    Healer DPS rotation

    All hail the omni button
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    V'priva Chxlyka
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 85
    Quote Originally Posted by Embio View Post
    Good suggestions, but these are only the beginning steps of VPR reaching its full potential and final form, the defacto job gameplay not just in FFXIV, but all of MMO's:

    Healer DPS rotation

    All hail the omni button
    The future of all job homogenization, beautiful
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    Damian Ravenhold
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Let's hope the devs like sarcasm or else we are actually hosed lmao
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    Pocket Prince
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 57
    VPR Pink Parse in progress:

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    The menacing aura of every Lalafell.

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    Router Modem
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    Excalibur
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Morr_Ar View Post
    After sleeping on it, I’ve come to realise the error in my previous analysis, and I want to thank the Job designers for their adjustments made to Viper. Thanks to the NG removal, Viper has been made into a more accessible job.

    But I implore the Job Designers not to stop here, the hard work is truly only beginning. With that in mind, I wanted to constructively suggest more adjustments that would continue to make Viper more fun for everyone.

    1. While removing NG has decreased the stress of debuff uptime on VPR, we still unfortunately have two personal buffs that need to be maintained all of the time. We could make these baseline to the job, with potency increases and a trait similar to Monk’s greased lightning. The end result would effectively be the same, in terms of the buttons the player presses and damage output, so this would be a positive change.

    2. After careful studying of the tooltips, I’ve noticed that Steel Fangs and Reaving Fangs actually do the same thing, just buffing the opposite skill. Would it not be easier to use the exciting new Action Change Setting to automatically alter the same keybind to Steel Fangs or Reaving Fangs automatically based on the buff the player currently has? That would help players struggling to hit the correct combo starter.

    3. Based on suggestion number one, there would be no need to have separate keybinds for the Vicewinder follow up Weaponskills (since we reduced the cognitive burden on players to choose which buff to reapply first), so we could again use the Action Change Settings to automatically change our Vicewinder keybind into the follow up skills, reducing the rotational complexity.

    4. Reawaken’s weaponskills could also be a single keybind under the Action Change settings, given that we always want to press the weaponskills in the same order.

    I think these would go a long way towards making Viper a more welcoming job for all players in the FFXIV community.
    Post this in the JP forums and they might actually take it seriously! You'd probably get 10+ likes, too.
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Router View Post
    Post this in the JP forums and they might actually take it seriously! You'd probably get 10+ likes, too.
    Honestly, you could advocate for deleting the game and JP would throw their full support behind you as long as you said it was to make the game "more accessible to people who don't want to play video games" or something to that effect
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