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    OP, I'm just curious. Would you feel the same way if people reported people in PvE who were considered lethargic because they were queuing up for Arcadian in artifact gear and not having materia in their gear?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menriq View Post
    OP, I'm just curious. Would you feel the same way if people reported people in PvE who were considered lethargic because they were queuing up for Arcadian in artifact gear and not having materia in their gear?
    Are they doing their dps rotation, or just standing around and only auto attacking the boss?
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterNublet View Post
    Are they doing their rotation or standing around and only auto attacking the boss?
    Doesn't matter. Just like your picture doesn't matter. You have no idea what their skill level is. They could be learning the job in PvP. Not exactly sure where you would expect them to learn group play other than FL or CC. Just because you don't think they are playing to your standards doesn't mean they are doing anything wrong.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menriq View Post
    Doesn't matter. Just like your picture doesn't matter. You have no idea what their skill level is. They could be learning the job in PvP. Not exactly sure where you would expect them to learn group play other than FL or CC. Just because you don't think they are playing to your standards doesn't mean they are doing anything wrong.
    It does matter cause your reaching and your logic is trash. You're correlating equipment worn to player performance which is extremely stupid.

    Also, SE has set the duty requirement for Arcadia and a person with artifact gear is allowed to queue into based on the requirements set.

    If the person was running tank busters into the party, or constantly throwing themselves off the side of the arena. I would absolutely report them.

    Neat part is, you can also vote kick the offending player which a lot of times you cannot do in PvP because they're in another group.
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    Based on those stats they dont have standards at all. Also I'm with OP Pve or PvP doesn't matter have some respect for others and try to play the game mode. No one's asking for PvP Gods but at least try not to grief ya own team.
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    Any system that gets implemented to reward performance is primed for abuse. The least worst option of them all would be rewards as you play, Exp for kills, captures, assists, and based on placement a multiplier gets added to the experience you gain at the end of the match. (1x, 1.2x, 1.5x) Needless to say Dark Knight meta needs to go before that can happen, and I'd wipe out Battle high or modify it to make BH V more vulnerable to being killed in exchange for more DPS.

    The other half of this is the players who cry ignorance. Mandatory PvP tutorials need to be implemented before ANYONE is allowed into PvP. The bare basics at a minimum such as recuperate, guard, purify ect. That way, ignorance will be no excuse, and if people chose to sit around the entire match doing nothing, they'll recieve nothing.
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  7. #17
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    Stats alone isn't going to cut it. I can have the highest damage in the entire room and still go 1-4-2 simply because the team got farmed the entire time. Looking at what you provided I can only see 2 people at most who went and intentionally feed. There is also another who refused to heal themselves or got caught and instantly died, but that's normal.

    With that said, there are people that do be 'running it mid' and intentionally feeding. It's not as noticeable as AFKing, but it's there. Too bad that video form will not be accepted. Been going on since ShB. I don't think the issue will go away anytime soon whether you like it or not. If people are going to let AFK sliding and not care about it why would they care about intentional feeding in the first place? After all, most is saying not to take the game serious in the first place.
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    While there is a perception that the match is decided by team assignment and who got the premade, you'll have people throwing to make their loss come quicker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterNublet View Post
    It does matter cause your reaching and your logic is trash. You're correlating equipment worn to player performance which is extremely stupid.
    You are correlating player performance to your own standard. Not sure I would say that is any better.

    Quote Originally Posted by MisterNublet View Post
    Also, SE has set the duty requirement for Arcadia and a person with artifact gear is allowed to queue into based on the requirements set.
    SE has the duty set that anyone can queue based on the requirements set. Nowhere is there a requirement for a specific performance.

    Quote Originally Posted by MisterNublet View Post
    If the person was running tank busters into the party, or constantly throwing themselves off the side of the arena. I would absolutely report them.
    Nothing you have provided indicates they doing nothing. I see assists, damage done, and healing. Once again, you are holding them to your standard.


    Quote Originally Posted by MisterNublet View Post
    Neat part is, you can also vote kick the offending player which a lot of times you cannot do in PvP because they're in another group.
    Same thing can happen in Alliance Raid. If their group doesn't see it as an issue, not sure where you get to be the decision maker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo View Post

    So personally, I think the only lever they have access to that they're willing to pull is adjusting the reward structure, such that the rewards are inviting to players who like PvP but are meaningless to those who don't.
    If true, I think it pushes us to having no rewards whatsoever. Basically any reward system within PvP becomes irrelevant to those who like PvP, because they play so many matches they quickly obtain all the rewards. This even includes the daily roulette XP bonus. Contrariwise, if you can't stand PvP but want to level as fast as possible, you grit your teeth and play a daily FL match. And sadly, the way to ensure your misery is kept as brief as possible is probably to feed the leading team.
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    Proletarier aller Länder, vereinigt euch! Ihr habt nichts zu verlieren als eure Ketten.

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