Quote Originally Posted by MisterNublet View Post
I've seen people use premades as an excuse more than I've seen actual premades. Almost as if they have the premade excuse macroed to press anytime they get called out on for dying repeatedly, followed with a macro for "It's just frontlines" or "I'm only here for the exp".
Every day I am sure I have several "premades" in my team. The main issue is, they are all premades of people who are generally uninterested in actually playing PvP. The reason the PvP premades have such a big impact, is because generally there are only maybe 2-5 people (at BEST) on a team that actually want to play PvP and make an effort. Of course, a group of 4, or queue syncers of 8, make such a big impact. But that is not on the premades, but on the large amount of players who not only have an absolute laughable skill level despite hundreds of games, but don't even have a base attitude of being there. And it doesn't help that you often can't even kick them, either because they are in another group, or they are protected by their FC mates whom they queued with, or the generally enabler community that quite frankly plagues this game. It's one thing to have feeders and afkers, it's another that the community by and large enables this behavior in the first place.

What the game needs is a PvP ban. People who utter any sentence that diminishes other people's effort of a win (the typical "it's just a game", "touch grass", "let's just lose"), or who feed / afk, need to get PvP strikes and be subsequently disabled from queueing from PvP activities for a time. And with each strike, this length increases, until they are banned either completely or till the next expansion.