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    Xenoviastar's Avatar
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    Xenovia Azanai
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    Job Roles Roulette

    Can we please have an option to have different Job roles in all Roulettes or even just different jobs. I am sick of going into a roulette and getting 2 of the same DPS in a leveling or MSQ, I don't care if it makes my queue longer I want the option so I avoid having buffs overlap and no party bonus.
    I know it's just roulettes but there is nothing worse than getting two bards where 1 song is effectively useless, we got enough different dps options now that this should be possible.
    If this is not something you like then you can easily not click the option just like how there is join duty in progress.

    Additionally it would also be nice to have shield healers and "pure" healers separate too but not as important.
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    Lucretia Ryusagi
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    Overlapping buffs are a skill issue, when you got two Ninjas and both use Mug* at the same time, thats their fault.

    The Bard songs could simply stack to fix this.
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    Last edited by Arohk; 08-02-2024 at 12:16 AM.

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    It does sound broadly like a player communication thing, often when I see someone I share a party buff with I'll ask if they want to go first, I once also tried to coordinate three SMN party buffs - that was fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alice_Rivers View Post
    It does sound broadly like a player communication thing, often when I see someone I share a party buff with I'll ask if they want to go first, I once also tried to coordinate three SMN party buffs - that was fun.
    Yes I have tried many times to communicate this to other players but most of the time they ignore it, or start drifting onto my buff. Also in some cases they do it out of spite. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    Overlapping buffs are a skill issue, when you got two Ninjas and both use Trick Attack at the same time, thats their fault.

    The Bard songs could simply stack to fix this.

    Trick attack is a personal buff, i guess you mean Mug/Dokumori

    With the introduction to the follow up skills every job has been given it is not a skill issue, it is by design that SE wants us to Burst on the 2min. so if 1 ninja did not use Dokumori they do not get ninki gauge or Higi which gives Zesho Meppo during their burst.
    You could argue it is casual content and you could rotate the buffs if you communicate but there is minor dps loss... again casual content which is why I'm asking for an optional addition for those that dislike this minor annoyance that I seem to run into way to much. I am a magnet for double jobs in roulettes and I'm tired of it.
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    Sida Bajihri
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    Most people who do roulettes solo in DF just want to go in and out and while they might want to pay attention to personal proves, if only to make things go faster, its not really fruitful environment for party tactics. If one wants more refined party structure to it there's always option to go with existing contacts or tossing up PF for the same. But as its fairly rare people want to se that much trouble for setting up the roles the PF likely won't fill. Best option is to go with other people you know who care.

    I could see this as a DF option, not to be paired with the same job, but it would have to be opt in, the default being that people can get partied with whatever jobs since the faster queue it gives is what vast majority of the players are more for.
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    when did they change it to a personal buff?In remember when trick was party wide been a while though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooserocka33 View Post
    when did they change it to a personal buff?In remember when trick was party wide been a while though.
    Yes i mean mug, trick attack was he old version but you get the idea.
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    I 100% agree it should be opt in option so if you want the quick queue and don't care about having 4 ninjas in your raids then so be it. But I like a bit of diversify, I dont want to have to watch someone else's buff if they go first.
    And I get it, its normal content I shouldnt care unless its end game stuff.
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    They did however make a big mistake in that regard by gating powerful potenciy spells behind the buffs for several jobs. There is no way you let go of 600 potency in the opener, so if double SMN, overlapping radiant buff ever 2 minutes it is instead of alternating every minute.
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