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    Shiro_Astral's Avatar
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    Shiro Astral
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    Body Customization

    I figured I'd take a shot in the dark here to file my complaint since it's been 10 years this game has been out and The Sims 4 was out shortly after. And seeing as apparently complaints is what caused Viper to change, wouldn't it be nice to see this change be finally implemented?

    I would love to see body modifications such that people can pick whether they want their character to be fat, more muscular, or whatever. I realize that we pretty much have simplistic models, but I thought Dawntrail's promise was a better game engine.

    Considering the customization options in other MMORPGs, such as Black Desert Online, and the improved graphics seeing in FF7 Remake, while we have an upscale of textures, it still feels like we're playing a 10 year old game with certain programming design choices which are seemingly set in stone.

    I'm surprised Square is not running a private version of ChatGPT or something to help with these issues.
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    Minako Nakamura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiro_Astral View Post
    I figured I'd take a shot in the dark here to file my complaint since it's been 10 years this game has been out and The Sims 4 was out shortly after. And seeing as apparently complaints is what caused Viper to change, wouldn't it be nice to see this change be finally implemented?

    I would love to see body modifications such that people can pick whether they want their character to be fat, more muscular, or whatever. I realize that we pretty much have simplistic models, but I thought Dawntrail's promise was a better game engine.

    Considering the customization options in other MMORPGs, such as Black Desert Online, and the improved graphics seeing in FF7 Remake, while we have an upscale of textures, it still feels like we're playing a 10 year old game with certain programming design choices which are seemingly set in stone.

    I'm surprised Square is not running a private version of ChatGPT or something to help with these issues.
    Problem with this game is they refuse to update their background systems until they feel forced. SE doesn't put a lot of the money we spend back into the development of the game. That's why even with the graphical updates, the game still feels like it's a 2005 MMO. If you look at the evolution of WoW, they did a great job with upgrading the game's engine over time. I wish SE would do the same
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    X'lota Qi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moxiesan View Post
    Problem with this game is they refuse to update their background systems until they feel forced. SE doesn't put a lot of the money we spend back into the development of the game. That's why even with the graphical updates, the game still feels like it's a 2005 MMO. If you look at the evolution of WoW, they did a great job with upgrading the game's engine over time. I wish SE would do the same
    I like WoW, but every customization and advancement they have added is just "tacked on" to the old game. They can't even figure out how to make every skin color available with every face. I don't think they are changing skin color the way FFXIV dose. It's like they were creating a new face for every combination and just ran out of time. They are only recently making skirts where legs exist, kind of. And their physics are... sad. FFXIV may be behind the times, but it's far ahead of WoW on most things.

    They have no body customizations that changes the shape of the model, other than Orc slouching I suppose.

    EDIT: Dracthyr have some minor body shape options, but they are also very limited in what they can wear in dragon form.
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    Last edited by MsQi; 08-04-2024 at 01:01 AM.
    "A good RPG needs a healthy dose of imbalance."
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    Anrui Mydia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moxiesan View Post
    Problem with this game is they refuse to update their background systems until they feel forced. SE doesn't put a lot of the money we spend back into the development of the game. That's why even with the graphical updates, the game still feels like it's a 2005 MMO. If you look at the evolution of WoW, they did a great job with upgrading the game's engine over time. I wish SE would do the same
    We won't ever see major changes unless SE completely ports this game over to a brand new engine which won't ever happen. The graphical overhaul was good and it just made things look better without altering the art direction. It's subtle changes but honestly it's how I wanted it to be done. Many of the things people keep asking for just aren't possible on this games current engine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moxiesan View Post
    the game still feels like it's a 2005 MMO.(
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    I don't even have.... and by which I noticed Estinien didn't have and I also don't have NIPPLES.

    WTF?

    A whole scene watching Estinien workout shirtless without nipples was FREAKISH.
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    That will never ever happen in this game. It's not built for it.

    Equipping a new piece of gear is literally equipping a new torso. It's too much work to even get adjustments for the small customization we do have because it's an entirely new model, you generally just get one body part per race/gender and that's it. It would be a huge endeavor to change all that now.

    The graphics update is mostly just textures and lighting. They really overhyped it for the laymen, imo.
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    I highly doubt the game is even capable of doing this but even if it were, I also highly doubt the devs want PSO2 abominations running around. I can understand the desire for more character creator options though. Hopefully they do a pass and add more options in the future.
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    I've been playing FFXIV for over a decade now so I'm used to always compromising.

    I'll accept HQ bodies only for revealing outfits and swimsuits if updating ALL the clothes is too cumbersome. Fine, I'll give up on nips but can we have a muscle tone slider?
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    Aco Nale
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    Character bodies should be updated. Bodies look quite jarring now with the difference in quality compared to faces and heads. Additionally, a lot of gear shows skin in varying degrees, adding further weirdness to equipping the new detailed outfits revealing low resolution bodies.

    They improved the polygons on the fingers but they're still a long way to go. Toes look better now though.

    We definitely need more details on nipples, Adam's apples for males, muscles, veins, etc.

    I've asked them about this before, should you wish to like and leave a comment on that other thread too.
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