This is true and why I said originally that I was fine with GNB and Dancer having less when they came out. Even with that fact, both last expansion and now it feels slim compared to before.RDM and SAM got proportionally more weapon glamours probably because there were less weapons needing to be made per fight at the time. Every new job adds more to the overall workload for weapons from that point forward.
Plus, since RDM and SAM released at level 50, it feels more like they got "everything" because there were no lower endgame levels for them to miss out on.
I was of the impression that there is a fairly predictable selection of weapon sets that get the new weapons added to them? Like, always the two poetics-purchased sets and top raid tier at the previous endgame level, top poetics weapon at the starter level, deep dungeon gear, things like that.
For comparison I looked up what the new jobs have vs what the older ones had from before their respective expansion ranges (cut for length):
PICTOMANCER FOR ENDWALKER AND BELOW IN 7.0
Starter level tome set: Cryptlurker
Endgame tome set (1): Credendum (Renaissance Brush)
Endgame tome set (2): Lunar Envoy
Starter level raid set: Edenmorn
Endgame raid set: Ascension
Dungeons (x4): Lv81 Monstrorum, Lv83 Imperial Magitek, Lv85 Palaka, Lv87 Ktiseos
Craftables (x4): Lv82 Palm, Lv84 Red Pine, Lv86 Ironwood, Lv88 Chondrite Magitek
PVP: Hellhound, Tropaios
Deep dungeon: Padjali, Kinna, Empyrean, Orthos, Enaretos
SAGE FOR SHADOWBRINGERS AND BELOW IN 6.0
Starter level tome set: Scaevan
Endgame tome set (1): Cryptlurker
Endgame tome set (2): Crystarium
Starter level raid set: Omega
Endgame raid set: Edenmorn
Dungeons (x6): Lv70 Crimson Lotus, Lv71 Lakeland, Lv73 Fae, Lv75 Ravel Keeper, Lv77 Nabaath, Lv79 Forgiven
Craftables (x5): Lv70 Stonegold, Lv72 Stonegold again, Lv74 Bluespirit, Lv76 Titanbronze, Lv78 Dwarven Mythril
PVP: Hellhound (IIRC Tropaios launched in 6.1)
Deep Dungeons: Padjali, Kinna, Empyrean (Orthos not available until mid-patch-cycle)
DANCER FOR STORMBLOOD AND BELOW IN 5.0
Starter level tome set: Shire
Endgame tome set (1): Scaevan
Endgame tome set (2): Dai-ryymyaku (Gyosei Kai)
Special: Coven (recycled models)
Starter level raid set: (no Alexander weapon)
Endgame raid set: Omega
Endgame trial set: Shinryu (or were these added later?)
Dungeons (x6): Lv61 Ghost Barque, Lv63 Ruby Tide, Lv65 Nomad's (The Awaited Stars), Lv67 Shin, Lv69 Griffinbanes, Lv70 Crimson Lotus
Craftables (x5): Lv60 High Steel, Lv62 High Steel again, Lv64 Doman Iron, Lv66 Doman Steel, Lv68 Molybdenum
PVP: Hellhound, Nue
Deep Dungeons: Padjali, Kinna, Empyrean
RED MAGE FOR HEAVENSWARD AND BELOW (some things may not have been there at launch)
Starter level tome set: Ironworks
Endgame tome set (1): Shire
Endgame tome set (2): Primal/Hailstorm
Endgame pre-tome set: Asuran (though this model is shared with other sets)
Starter level raid: Dreadwyrm
Endgame raid (x3): Gordian, Midan, Alexandrian
Starter level trial (x7): Crag, Vortex, Inferno, Mog, Wave, Thunder, True Ice
Endgame trial (x7): Expanse, Hive, Round, Horde, Demon, Goddess, Fiend
Special: GC Captain's sets (recycled models where earlier jobs had unique ones)
Dungeons (x6): Lv51 Martial, Lv53 Woad (Guespiere), Lv55 Orthodox (Verdun) Lv57 Halonic, Lv59 Gubal (Belah'dian Degen), Lv60 Baldur
Craftables (x5): Lv50 Mythrite, Lv52 Mythrite again, Lv54 Hardsilver, Lv56 Hardsilver again, Lv58 Aurum Regis (alternating between only two models)
PVP (x3): Hellhound, Thaliak, Black Griffin
Other: Senor Sabotender
ASTROLOGIAN FOR A REALM REBORN
Endgame tome set (1): Ironworks
Endgame tome set (2): Gerolt's masterworks (Sirius)
Endgame other: Rowena's token exchange (Aldebaran)
Starter level raid: N/A
Endgame raid: Allagan, High Allagan, Dreamwyrm
Endgame trial (x7): all primals
Special: GC Elite, various recyclings of standard star globe models
Dungeons: Lv30-50, Lv50 Darklight
Crafted: The Evening Star, Giantsgall, Platinum
PVP: Warwolf, Direwolf (Giantsgall duplicate), Owlsight/Owlliege; also got Garo weapon while later expansions missed out
Other: Senor Sabotender; there's also an odd mix of weapons from the Gold Saucer prize exchange that doesn't cover all weapons - MCH and DRK got them but AST didn't.
Overall it seems that there's no gradual decline, just a very enthusiastic early effort that got drastically toned down back in Shadowbringers and has stayed fairly stable since then. There are less dungeon weapons because there are less dungeons that give weapons in the first place, but then there's a building number of specific sources (deep dungeons and PVP) that are always made available to each new job as they are added.
Perhaps the feeling of "getting less" comes from there being a longer list of content that doesn't get weapons for the new jobs, even though the list of content that does is much the same as before.
Last edited by Iscah; 08-03-2024 at 11:27 AM.
There's still less being made when it comes to the content in general for all jobs. There has been a severe lack of the crafted weapons from ex mats. (Which was my other point)I was of the impression that there is a fairly predictable selection of weapon sets that get the new weapons added to them? Like, always the two poetics-purchased sets and top raid tier at the previous endgame level, top poetics weapon at the starter level, deep dungeon gear, things like that.
For comparison I looked up what the new jobs have vs what the older ones had from before their respective expansion ranges (cut for length):
Overall it seems that there's no gradual decline, just a very enthusiastic early effort that got drastically toned down back in Shadowbringers and has stayed fairly stable since then. There are less dungeon weapons because there are less dungeons that give weapons in the first place, but then there's a building number of specific sources (deep dungeons and PVP) that are always made available to each new job as they are added.
Perhaps the feeling of "getting less" comes from there being a longer list of content that doesn't get weapons for the new jobs, even though the list of content that does is much the same as before.
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