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    Mastercrafts Consumables Pls Nerf

    Hi so I like raiding, I like extremes, and I like criterion dungeons. This content requires good food and potions that are usually master crafts. These master crafts require me to spend several million gil and be subjected to RNGesus for crafter pentamelds for the pleasure of spending hours each week just to craft them. While I can appreciate that crafting is a system that some people enjoy, I shouldn't be forced to engage with it just to participate in the content I do enjoy. And before anyone wants to say "You can just buy it!" the amount of these consumables that are required end up making it so costly that I'd be spending just as much time doing something else almost equally as miserable like RNG treasure dungeons.

    I don't care if the gear is difficult to craft, most people only really need one set of it. They can keep that. But please for the love of Hydaelyn let me craft my own food and potions without excessive sacrifice every single week. If there's a significant enough amount of the playerbase that actually enjoys crafting so much then just give them another Firmament or something catered to that content but stop forcing me to engage with it to an excessive degree.


    Edit adding onto this for those who don't get it: I know what end-game crafting is like. I have been playing this game since end of Heavensward. I have pentamelded crafting sets several times. I have been "the crafter" for my static through numerous tiers. I know what it's like and the effort required. And I still absolutely hate it. I don't want to do it anymore. I'm sick of it and will just be spending my gil at this point. But when that runs out I have to decide: Is it worth it to go back and enduring this content that I find soul-sucking, or just give it up and don't come back at all?
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    Last edited by Rinalas; 07-31-2024 at 04:03 PM.

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    Eh, no. You've had good 2 weeks or more to prepare all the necessary materials to craft it yourself. Some people I know barely had time to play the game themselves and managed to get it done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rehayem View Post
    Eh, no. You've had good 2 weeks or more to prepare all the necessary materials to craft it yourself. Some people I know barely had time to play the game themselves and managed to get it done.
    You've missed the point. The point is it's content I do not enjoy at all. It's boring and repetitive and is simply a means to an end (that I have to have them to raid) and not because it's actually fun. I can do it. But it sucks. You know, that reason we play games. To have fun.

    Just as a crafter or a casual player shouldn't have to engage with savage or extremes, I shouldn't have to engage with extreme pentamelding crafting on a weekly basis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinalas View Post
    You've missed the point. The point is it's content I do not enjoy at all. It's boring and repetitive and is simply a means to an end (that I have to have them to raid) and not because it's actually fun. I can do it. But it sucks. You know, that reason we play games. To have fun.

    Just as a crafter or a casual player shouldn't have to engage with savage or extremes, I shouldn't have to engage with extreme pentamelding crafting on a weekly basis.
    Okay, I might sound rude here but... that's a you problem. I don't like doing Deep Dungeons for example, but you don't see me cry at SE to nerf it down because I find it boring and I want the loot from there because I'm lazy.

    Making gil in this game is easy as hell, and you can do it just fine with just battle jobs, no crafting needed. My friend hates crafting as well, yet she made bank by selling gemstone materials.

    So what exactly do you want? Do you want SE to butcher crafters and gatherers just as they butchered battle jobs? No. Either git gud or learn how to make gil in game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rehayem View Post
    Okay, I might sound rude here but... that's a you problem. I don't like doing Deep Dungeons for example, but you don't see me cry at SE to nerf it down because I find it boring and I want the loot from there because I'm lazy.

    Making gil in this game is easy as hell, and you can do it just fine with just battle jobs, no crafting needed. My friend hates crafting as well, yet she made bank by selling gemstone materials.

    So what exactly do you want? Do you want SE to butcher crafters and gatherers just as they butchered battle jobs? No. Either git gud or learn how to make gil in game.
    You can live without Deep Dungeon Loot. You not having deep dungeon loot doesn't affect your ability to play the content you enjoy. Me not engaging in more lucrative content does significant affect my ability to enjoy raiding. You see how your analogy does not hold up?

    And yeah, maybe they should nerf crafters like they nerfed battle jobs. That's obviously the perfect solution. [/s] At least then there'd be some justice in this game. Make every single thing easy peasy just like the casuals wanted to begin with. Then no one can be happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinalas View Post
    Make every single thing easy peasy just like the casuals wanted to begin with. Then no one can be happy.
    Yet here you are asking for this lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teah_Kaye View Post
    But you only have to overmeld your crafting gear like 2-3 times an expansion? Definitely not weekly. And you don't even need to penta all of it, you can craft your HQ gear and consumables with budget melds just fine.
    Yeah I can do budget melds. But then I have to craft even more of the pieces used in the craft as HQ. Which increases the amount I'm spent crafting on the weekly by at least double. Which also sucks.
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    Crafting was never difficult, tedious? yes, difficult not in the slightest. All you need is to meet the minimum stat and quality requirements then let the in-game macro do the crafting for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plumerian_Ariadust View Post
    Crafting was never difficult, tedious? yes, difficult not in the slightest. All you need is to meet the minimum stat and quality requirements then let the in-game macro do the crafting for you.
    "Just spend tens of hours farming in what you consider to be extremely boring content!"
    Yeah, there's a reason I'm playing FFXIV for raids and not Runescape.
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