[Feedback] Data Center Travel Changes

[DolphinsFan]

I have two characters I primarily play on, with my main on Aether and my alt on Dynamis, however I raid on both. My alt's static is all Aether based, but so are most of my friends! So I have to prioritize keeping my alt on Aether, which means I can't risk transferring to other DCs in the event I can't get back to Aether. It's awful, and I've missed out on a lot of social and roleplay events I wanted to attend because of this. I made this alt character for roleplay and my favorite venue is Aether based as well, but I miss out on events on Dynamis or Crystal because if I leave Aether I won't be able to return in a timely fashion when I need to.

I can't even do Island Sanctuary content on my alt, because I'd have to go back to my home world for that, and unfortunately I'd rather prioritize being able to stay on Aether. A lot of other people I know also feel like they're trapped on Aether with how easily the DC gets congested, so they don't dare move their non-Aether characters off of it, which essentially... clogs the DC further since we can't come and go as we please like we used to. It's frustrating. I'd genuinely just move my alt to Aether at this point next opening if it weren't for the fact that I own character housing.

I'm in the exact same situation here. Ironically, for all the supporters of the change who think segregating the playerbase is a good thing, it's made me avoid ever returning to dynamis and contributing to the queues there. Its frustrating not having access to retainers, and when friends go to other servers, but its way more frustrating being hit with a grey wall when I need to get to Aether.

[PassinLay]

Seems like SE didnt like my message and got it removed, and the other poster agreeing with me as well.

I will repeat it, the reason why this fake congestion thing is still a thing (hint : there is no congestion, https://steamcharts.com/app/39210 , we are already under pre-DT levels of population) is because of this community never holding SE accountable for anything, yall are restricted from meeting with friends on aether and even crystal and primal to some extent when they deem it "congested", visiting venues, raiding, participating in events, and much more because of your own inaction, you just sit there and take it, except for the people that posted in this thread in favor of the restrictions being removed, you get what you deserve.

There is no congestion anywhere, the actual evidence that this congestion thing is a joke is that Balmung is constantly on congested status in the afternoon and night, and you are unable to visit it unless you spam for 30 minutes, but at the very same time you can just make a new character on balmung or transfer there, make it make sense SE.

Whenever you are annoyed by this whole "congestion" thing, you can blame no one else but this community for tolerating it and letting it go on for this long, especially when its very obvious that worlds are not congested in the slightest.

[Morpho_Buduga]

Probably just repeating what a lot of others have said, but the continued Aether lock is nothing helpful. There's a venue I went to every week (pre-DT) on Aether, but they haven't even been able to open since Dawntrail because most of their staff and regular attendees are on other data centers. I can't even visit the few friends who are based there because the itty bitty window where Aether is open for travelers is -surprise surprise- at a time where I'm sleeping.

Having a large chunk of the socializing part of an MMO be completely inaccessible to anyone who isn't lucky enough to already have a character on one of the biggest DCs is absolutely nonsensical, and just defeats the purpose of the having congested worlds locked anyway -no one who manages to get to Aether is going to leave now for fear they can't get back, so the perceived high volume of players is never going to go down.

The intent of these measures makes sense in theory, but in practice -using an automated system especially- is an utter failure.

[HanaMayhem]

I feel like Dynamis players are being punished for the sheer fact of being on Dynamis. :/ I queue for content almost exclusively on Dynamis with the exception of events, with the ability to be able to visit other DCs for roleplay events being the main reason I wasn't all too choked up about leaving Balmung. I get the intent behind making it so people on the Aether DC have first priority for logging in, but the implementation has been miserable. Additionally, if in some roundabout way it's meant to help with the constant DDoS attacks, it hasn't helped at all.

[KitaiAryik]

Probably just repeating what a lot of others have said, but the continued Aether lock is nothing helpful. There's a venue I went to every week (pre-DT) on Aether, but they haven't even been able to open since Dawntrail because most of their staff and regular attendees are on other data centers. I can't even visit the few friends who are based there because the itty bitty window where Aether is open for travelers is -surprise surprise- at a time where I'm sleeping.

Having a large chunk of the socializing part of an MMO be completely inaccessible to anyone who isn't lucky enough to already have a character on one of the biggest DCs is absolutely nonsensical, and just defeats the purpose of the having congested worlds locked anyway -no one who manages to get to Aether is going to leave now for fear they can't get back, so the perceived high volume of players is never going to go down.

The intent of these measures makes sense in theory, but in practice -using an automated system especially- is an utter failure.

i don't think the dev team realizes the damage they are doing with this by insisting on keeping these restrictions in place. especially on a single region. not everyone raids. and the harder the raid, the smaller the pool is. its the casual players that keep an MMO alive. your RPers, the venues, gposers etc that keep this game going and the bills paid for this game. the longer this goes on, the more of a problem this becomes for the social scene. yes you can take breaks, but guess what, ppl are going to take breaks and just not come back specially if something like this is allowed to continue for much longer. hell we are already in a lull as it is. it's going to get to a point where this is gonna get to a head, in some way or another and needs to be addressed soooner rather than later.

[CidHeiral]

i don't think the dev team realizes the damage they are doing with this by insisting on keeping these restrictions in place.

It took them years to address the dogpiling Aether issue with this change. Clearly they weighed the options and decided the damage these restrictions would do is less damage to the game than leaving most DCs a dead husk. Look around, outside of this thread which isn't even that active, there's hardly any complaint across the community. It seems most people are enjoying their servers being alive again. The game did just fine before DC travel ever existed, it's not going anywhere over these travel restrictions.

[KitaiAryik]

It took them years to address the dogpiling Aether issue with this change. Clearly they weighed the options and decided the damage these restrictions would do is less damage to the game than leaving most DCs a dead husk. Look around, outside of this thread which isn't even that active, there's hardly any complaint across the community. It seems most people are enjoying their servers being alive again. The game did just fine before DC travel ever existed, it's not going anywhere over these travel restrictions.

if it was "fine" before DC travel, what is the point of even introducing it in the first place? so we can actually play with friends on different DCs so we wouldn't have to pay for xfers or just making another character on that DC in the first place. that is the whole point of the system. that and the failure to put in a solution to ppl dogpiling as you put it on aether with DC travel is a failure on SEs part since the people that do manage to squeeze in the DC in the mornings to Aether just AFK just so they don't have to fight to get back in with the timer removed, so this isn't the solution you think it is. if it's such an issue, DC travel wouldn't be re-enabled to aether even in its restricted state. and only NA is affected with this. and to top it off, EU/JP would have these same restrictions in place yet only NA is affected with any lockdowns/restrictions on character creations and DC travel restrictions. yet they were fully enabled some time ago on both the EU and JP regions.

not all of us raid and all of my own friends happened to be on Aether when i myself joined FF14 recently here, and being unable to create a character as is on that DC with it being locked off AND restricted to top it off, i have to make each and every one of them travel to me here on primal when it would be easier just to have myself go to them to hang out and have them play with me or anything else for that matter even for something as simple as wanting to show me their house but not being able to due to restrictions . the fact that we have to jump through hoops to do so for a game we pay for every 2 yrs on top of a monthly sub to not be able to play with those friends, we have every right to want the restrictions removed. all this is is a hinderance on the social aspects of the game is more damaging than you think or even want to admit. just because you don't have a problem with it doesn't mean we don't and wont stop voicing it til it gets removed and get to play with friends again without going out of our way in doing it.

[CidHeiral]

that and the failure to put in a solution to ppl dogpiling as you put it on aether with DC travel is a failure on SEs part since the people that do manage to squeeze in the DC in the mornings to Aether just AFK just so they don't have to fight to get back in with the timer removed, so this isn't the solution you think it is.

You're right, if it were up to me I'd disable DC travel entirely. Limiting the number of people who can hop over is the next best thing. It's not a perfect solution, but it's better than every other DC being dead as they were before.

we have every right to want the restrictions removed. all this is is a hinderance on the social aspects of the game is more damaging than you think or even want to admit. just because you don't have a problem with it doesn't mean we don't and wont stop voicing it til it gets removed and get to play with friends again without going out of our way in doing it.

I never said you don't have the right to fight for what you believe in. Fight for whatever you want. My previous post was addressing your claims that the devs an unaware of the negative effects these restrictions are having and that the game is going to die because of them, both of which are ridiculous.

[KitaiAryik]

You're right, if it were up to me I'd disable DC travel entirely. Limiting the number of people who can hop over is the next best thing. It's not a perfect solution, but it's better than every other DC being dead as they were before.



I never said you don't have the right to fight for what you believe in. Fight for whatever you want. My previous post was addressing your claims that the devs an unaware of the negative effects these restrictions are having and that the game is going to die because of them, both of which are ridiculous.

the devs are very unaware of the damage this does for social aspects of the game. many of us just want to hang out with our friends and other people. hence to be social. we aren't raiders by a long shot. the fact that we're punished for using a system the devs implemented to begin with for a game we pay for on top of a monthly sub for lengthy periods is a damaging aspect for the social scene.doesn't change the fact of the negative impact this does have for the social aspect of the game regardless if you even want to admit it or not. the whole point of DC travel as i stated was to hang out with our friends and other people in different DCs. If its such an issue, SE/CBU3 should not have implemented it to begin with. we should not be punished for using a system THEY implemented. the restrictions is doing more harm than good socially for an MMO, which by default, encourages people be social in one aspect of the game or another.

and as someone else is bringing up, and its a very good point. the "problem" you keep wanting to bring up just happens to move to primal (SURPIIIIIIISE) instead of aether so maybe you aren't the genius you think you are. so lets stop kidding yourself here, the only reason you don't want these restrictions lifted is that you don't want to lose primal being the defacto "hub" now for raiding since aether is so inaccessible to most.

[PassinLay]

You're right, if it were up to me I'd disable DC travel entirely. Limiting the number of people who can hop over is the next best thing. It's not a perfect solution, but it's better than every other DC being dead as they were before.



I never said you don't have the right to fight for what you believe in. Fight for whatever you want. My previous post was addressing your claims that the devs an unaware of the negative effects these restrictions are having and that the game is going to die because of them, both of which are ridiculous.

So the problem has now moved to primal instead of aether since thats where everyone is piling up now

good fix buddy

Just say that you only care about yourself since you're on primal and you're all happy now since primal is packed, while dc's like crystal or dynamis still have 0 content because this whole fake congestion thing isnt helping either of those DC's, at least be honest with yourself and stop pretending you care about "dc's health" and other people in general, you only care about yourself and your own DC.