[Feedback] Data Center Travel Changes

[VoidsentStatus]

and would rather just pay to leave even if it means giving up my house.

Yep. That's what happened to a few good people I knew in CC even. They wanted to stay on Dynamis because they had their dream house even but because they ended up having to sit on Crystal 24/7 because they couldn't do the smallest possible scale casual or ranked pvp queue consistently, they had to wait for 6+ months for Balmung to open up and then left. We had some good players on Dynamis, but they left during Endwalker. Got their Top 30/Rank 1 and then dipped out. Likely another reason they didn't want to wait another 3 years before doing something about Aether draining the other 3 data centers because it has a lot of hidden consequences that people don't think about or feel unless they're in those communities.

[VoidsentStatus]

The only thing really stopping me is that, as far as I know, you can't pay-transfer to some place that's congested, or how its a toss up if I go to Aether (for obvious reasons) or Primal, because it's the only data center I've seen that consistently does Rival Wings even outside of mogtome events, or how when I've DC hopped for deals on the Market Board, 80% of the time the best price/quantity was a world on Primal, which I've been told is because it's "the" hub for gathering/crafting and thus there's far less price-gouging compared to the other DCs (*especially* Dynamis).

Crystal is the only one I don't have any specific motive for, given it's supposedly all about RP/venues and I don't do that kind of content in the slightest.

Correct, you can't go to Aether at all due to Congestion. You have 4 worlds on Crystal and 4 worlds on Primal to choose from that are classified as Standard and not Congested. https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/worldstatus/

[xanatosdc]

Ah, yes, because that's what RP is about. Dance emotes. Shows that you have zero clue.

[xanatosdc]

If this was a reply to me I'm gonna clarify: lol no?
One, new DC would be separated yes. Since it's new, no one is there yet.
So you wouldn't be kept from anyone and no one would be kept from you. Your venue scenes would, on the current DCs, go back to normal.

If your stance is "no, even if a new DC is made, it MUST be accessible to me because it might potentially have venues or I might want to meet someone there" then I don't really get it, I mean I kind of get it, but you can't make one exception? On a completely new, empty DC...??

If this wasn't a reply to me, feel free to ignore this, but my suggestion's entire purpose is to restore the game back to DC travel as it was just a bit ago and add one separate place with no DC travel as a compromise for those who *want* the privacy and culture of a secluded DC.

It wasn't a reply to you but whoever said to do away with DC travel completely

[gllt]

It wasn't a reply to you but whoever said to do away with DC travel completely

Sorry for the confusion!

[VoidsentStatus]

I'm kinda surprised to see Mateus being available as I was under the impression it was RP hub #2 right behind Balmung.


Seraph of all places being congested on Dynamis doesn't surprise me though, as that was apparently the place people chose to make the "super world" for whatever reason if all of the disbanded FCs I went through/saw collapse in my early days on Maduin to move there was any indication (to say nothing of how the majority of the people I see in PVE duty finder are also from Seraph). So even on a "dead data center" people were still trying to mass-congregate to one world and leave the rest to their own devices, of which I think Maduin & Marilith were the deadest until Cuchulainn/Golem/Kraken/Rafflesia came along.

So, Mateus being a huge RP hub didn't really kick off until after DC Travel was released. Everyone used to be on Balmung, both sfw and nsfw people combined. When DC Travel came, quicksands turned from RP/ERP into also having gposers, mare spam that didn't even rp, and a noticeable amount more people doing/asking for OOC sexual activities. The vibe completely shifted and a lot of OG's left including a large chunk of sfw people, which then began to populate Mateus as the more sfw crowd. When you go there, you see 80%+ of people wearing the RP tag and actually typing out emotes in open world. That is where the more serious RP happens while Balmung became more degen than the degen reputation it already had.

Seraph was where roleplayers congregated for Dynamis. Hali (where I am) was kinda like the Mateus to Balmung. Leftover/more serious/dark themed roleplay due to being named after a voidsent. Maduin and Marilith were the deadest and I could tell just from housing xD They took the longest to get all of their medium houses taken up on top of the occasional visit to limsa being even emptier than Hali.

[kiotsukete]

On one hand, DC travel is why Dynamis was dead and I was forced to go to Aether/Primal/Crystal to get anything done for the longest time.
On the other hand, the lockdown that prevented anyone from leaving Dynamis (but allowed anyone from A/P/C to come over) has lead to some of the most miserable Duty Finder experiences I've ever had (especially PVP).

So now I've grown to hate doing group content on Dynamis and want to DC travel again, but whoops, the current restrictions means I'm still in semi-lockdown. The conclusion I've reached is that Square-Enix wants me to pay-transfer to Aether, Primal, or Crystal, but due to the current congestion, I'm not sure which (if any) of their worlds I'd be allowed to move to so I can finally get out of this low-pop hellhole.

I'm on Crystal but was thinking of doing the free home world transfer to Dynamis for housing. But I've read past horror stories of constantly having to DC travel to do roulettes, MSQ duties etc. Also losing access to FC exp buffs and retainers while traveling seems like a big negative since crafting is my main gilmaker.

So I'd been wondering if these DC travel restrictions improved DF wait times on Dynamis? Your post makes it seem so, but what do you mean by miserable DF experiences? I don't PVP much aside from FL roulette and some CC to cap tomes if I'm running out of time before weekly reset.

[PeridotOlivine]

A lot of things in MMOs rely on getting to where other players are at the same time as many other players, to make a "massive" multiplayer online game, and the new system really makes that a problem. So its certainly an odd change to make and I hope they remove these restrictions soon.

I also hope that they also continue to improve the world visit system for worlds on your DC, as its currently easier and faster to visit another DC (so long as it isnt locked under the new system, that is) at only 1-2 minutes travel time, but it can take over 5 minutes during times like a hunt train forming for you to travel between worlds on the same DC.

[CuteBucket]

If this was supposed to somehow fix the raiding scene on Dynamis, it didn't work. Since my static is scattered across different data centers, we've been trying to meet on Dynamis to raid since it's hard for our non Aether friends to get there anymore. But if someone is out for the night and we need a PF fill on Dynamis? Nothing. We waited an hour and then gave up and did treasure maps the rest of the night. When this happened during 6.x, we'd get a fill in the time it took for someone to get up and refill their water.

Genuinely, why is it a problem for people to go to "the raiding server" for the evening if that's where all the raiders are at? That's how MMORPGs work, you find people doing the same content you want to do and gather up, whether its raiding or RP venues and events. I used to go to a particular server because there was a venue I liked there that was popular, enough so that some nights there was a queue to get in because so many people were in the instance. Is that depriving other servers of needed bodies? Who cares? It's one event for a few hours to experience with lots of other people.

[VoidsentStatus]

I'm on Crystal but was thinking of doing the free home world transfer to Dynamis for housing. But I've read past horror stories of constantly having to DC travel to do roulettes, MSQ duties etc. Also losing access to FC exp buffs and retainers while traveling seems like a big negative since crafting is my main gilmaker.

So I'd been wondering if these DC travel restrictions improved DF wait times on Dynamis? Your post makes it seem so, but what do you mean by miserable DF experiences? I don't PVP much aside from FL roulette and some CC to cap tomes if I'm running out of time before weekly reset.

Depends on what you're queue'ing specifically. If you're doing Dawntrail trials and dungeons, roulette's, you're fine. If you want ShB/EW trial/raid/alliance content however, most of that is going to be relegated to PF use besides a few exceptions. FL roulette I don't know, but CC does pop now after the changes last I heard 1-2 weeks ago. I can check again today if you want a confirmation on CC queues.