[Feedback] Data Center Travel Changes

[VoidsentStatus]

1 : This is a sunday afternoon/evening
2 : the numbers of PF's for content is laughable compared to other DC's, this aint the "flex" you think it is.

1) He said the party didn't fill. And there's 4 parties for said content without it even being prime hours. 2 of which are farm parties 1-2 people away from filling. Getting into the content exists. He just chose to aim for the content at the worst possible time. He had Aether level expectations while being on Dynamis which is ignorant. Every data center/region has different expectations you should have. NA in general has longer raiding hours than JP. I wouldn't go over to JP and complain about their raiding scene saying it doesn't exist and I can't get into content just because I wanted to keep NA expectations. You adjust your content planning and expectations based on where you are.

2) Calling it a flex when I flat out said earlier in the thread that it's better than it was previously and is good progress relative to how long the data center had content running at all tells me the level of salt you have over the fact you can't argue with any of the points I've made and have to resort to putting words in my mouth and changing the argument. Always some Miqo being emotional.

[riqueshion]

This is the funny part to me. Seeing so many people talking as if they're going to quit content or abandon 4-10 years of playing the game before using Party Finder on their home data center is just a little /too/ wild for me to believe. I don't take half of these comments seriously because they sound exagerrated as hell and spoiled/selfish. Yoshi P smacking people in the back of the head and saying "raid where you are" is the funniest interaction I've seen in a second and shows the maturity difference between JP and NA/EU since they're adjusting better.

Besides you being completely rude and proving that you are NOT raiding this savage tier, just reflect how gate keeper some players are related to issues with DC travel. You literally took a screenshot on the general tab, where ALL endgame fights are. This shows nothing. As a raider, I've been struggling to fill parties in my DC since last tier. This is also for ultimate fights. You SIMPLY cannot fill. I would love to raid in my server again, like I used to since ShB. But you either travel to raid, or wait forever in your dc to fill a single prog party.

[DolphinsFan]

I genuinely cannot fathom how the people who hate data center travel equate the minor inconveniences associated with it to not being able to play with your friends. Are people that attached to their retainers?
Leaving Dynamis as soon as anywhere on Aether opens up if dc travel remains as is.

[VoidsentStatus]

You literally took a screenshot on the general tab, where ALL endgame fights are.

The guy I replied to said EX2, not Savage. What was shown is EX2. I went to Primal at 9PM EST today and saw 113 party finders for High-end Duty and you want to cry fake tears about not being able to fill a party in Savage . I'm not entertaining this. Go be a fussy little bunbun with someone else.

[rednebula]

I'm not bothering quoting the two people who replied to me, so let me just reiterate some things.

I said LAST WEEK when we were trying to farm EX2. As in, before the Savage tier dropped. There was no savage to be pulling away.

And guess what? Last night, at what are supposed to be NA 'peak hours', it took over an hour for my M2 party to fill. Some may argue that we should be patient and wait for parties to fill, but not all of us have hours to sit around and wait in a PF for it to fill. In addition, I will agree with SophiaDL. I asked my spouse, who lives on aether, how many PFs were up at the same moment that we had about 30. They had over 150. That is absurd to say the least, and it's certainly not being caused by travelers considering every time I tried to world travel there was not even a single Aether world available. The members of my static who live on Primal, and who prog in their free time, are already all the way through M3, but I have to sit for an hour to get an M2 party to fill and disband in two pulls because people lied about their prog points.

At this point I think you all who are being weirdly territorial about your own worlds need to consider that no matter how you feel, Square Enix gave us DC travel last expansion and let the community at large get used to traveling around. I feel deceived, because I only moved to Dynamis with the understanding that I would be able to freely travel around and play with my friends on Aether and Primal, and that is no longer the case. I am not getting the product I paid for, and at this point, I will most likely cease paying for it once my static is done with the tier.

[VoidsentStatus]

Last night, at what are supposed to be NA 'peak hours', it took over an hour for my M2 party to fill. Some may argue that we should be patient and wait for parties to fill, but not all of us have hours to sit around and wait in a PF for it to fill. In addition, I will agree with SophiaDL. I asked my spouse, who lives on aether, how many PFs were up at the same moment that we had about 30. They had over 150.

EST Time Zone.





Prime time for each Data Center is slightly different. You need to be on to see the up's and down's and decide for yourself. I only check PF on occasional between 8-11PM EST because I know people are not going into Savage too often past midnight. Most people that raid that have an IRL 9-5, would be ready to raid at 6 at the earliest. If that 6 is west coast, that would be 9PM my time. That's why most venues don't open earlier than 9-10 EST. Some Data Centers have more players in a specific time zone so you can shift that by 1-2 hours depending. To give a ranked pvp example, Crystal's upper ranked matches didn't start until around 10-11PM EST because they had a large Aussie playerbase and west coast people. Aether/Primal started at 8-9PM instead.

"took over an hour for my M2 party to fill, not all of us have hours to sit around and wait in a PF for it to fill" That's what a static is for. And when you get one, go to OCE. There's not a difference between you waiting to fill a group and you being inside of a trap. If your time is precious to you, and you're on a limited schedule, you don't PF. That is the longest method of clearing raid content. And it doesn't help that NA has a pattern of arguing over strats and having different clear and job requirements splitting up the available players for the same instance.

"all of my static who live on Primal are through M3" -> There were M3 and M4 PF's for Savage on Dynamis. Which means you missed the M2 clears considering I doubt people cleared M1&M2 on Primal/Aether and then came to Dynamis for M3/4.

"I am not getting the product I paid for" -> Congratulations, you feel the same as everyone on Primal, Crystal, and Dynamis felt for roulette's and PF use for a majority of EW. You travelling to run PvE content and having a cross-DC static was part of the problem. So you leaving the game if you don't want to change your behavior that was negatively impacting others' basic expectations of the game that they had for 7+ years is actually a good thing.

[CidHeiral]

As a raider, I've been struggling to fill parties in my DC since last tier. This is also for ultimate fights. You SIMPLY cannot fill. I would love to raid in my server again, like I used to since ShB. But you either travel to raid, or wait forever in your dc to fill a single prog party.

If you're referring to Primal that's not true at all. Since the tier launched there are regularly 60-100 high end parties up on Primal and they fill pretty quickly. Prior to the new travel restrictions Primal was completely dead at all times, which really sucked because it had an awesome raiding community before DC travel came around. Very happy to see it return.

[NanaWiloh]

If you're referring to Primal that's not true at all. Since the tier launched there are regularly 60-100 high end parties up on Primal and they fill pretty quickly. Prior to the new travel restrictions Primal was completely dead at all times, which really sucked because it had an awesome raiding community before DC travel came around. Very happy to see it return.

I saw around 108 paries mostly high end content parties night before last on Primal.

[VoidsentStatus]

I saw around 108 paries mostly high end content parties night before last on Primal.

I was happy as hell to see Primal recover so fast since that's where most of my gpose/raid friends are at. A lot of them were the one's that used to flood Jenova/Midgard iirc but originally came from Leviathan/Exodus. Though I have no idea what they want to/plan to do for Crystal. When I checked, Aether was like, 30-50% higher than Primal and 250-300% higher than Dynamis & Crystal. Aether's staying congested for a good bit with that much of a lead over even Primal, but I'm curious what they'll change congestion wise to try to balance Primal and Crystal.

[NanaWiloh]

I was happy as hell to see Primal recover so fast since that's where most of my gpose/raid friends are at. A lot of them were the one's that used to flood Jenova/Midgard iirc but originally came from Leviathan/Exodus. Though I have no idea what they want to/plan to do for Crystal. When I checked, Aether was like, 30-50% higher than Primal and 250-300% higher than Dynamis & Crystal. Aether's staying congested for a good bit with that much of a lead over even Primal, but I'm curious what they'll change congestion wise to try to balance Primal and Crystal.

If Aerhers congestion gets worse it will suffer a Balmung style lockdown. No dc travel into the dc for visitors only dc travel out. Aether players should come before visitors for logging into Aether end of story.