[Feedback] Data Center Travel Changes

[VoidsentStatus]

"Visiting players can't login right now due to congestion."

*tries again*

"Players in queue: 33"

Bro, please change this shit. This game is not nearly as congested as it was when End Walker released. Stop the cap.

How congested it was at Endwalker is irrelevant because the caps on visitors and travelers on each world was different back then. It's not a cap, it's a vague statement. It should read "Visiting players can't login right now due to visitor congestion." Which means you were waiting for a different visitor to leave the world before you could be let in. Whether that's 5 seconds later or 5 minutes later is rng. How many non-visitor people are signed in is irrelevant to that problem.

[SophiaDL]

How congested it was at Endwalker is irrelevant because the caps on visitors and travelers on each world was different back then. It's not a cap, it's a vague statement. It should read "Visiting players can't login right now due to visitor congestion." Which means you were waiting for a different visitor to leave the world before you could be let in. Whether that's 5 seconds later or 5 minutes later is rng. How many non-visitor people are signed in is irrelevant to that problem.

So DT should be better without a visitor cap per your own words since the cap was different back then

Yet what we have is an extremely rough DC travel near to lockdown

Are you going to justify that too? How do you justify steps backward, we have less players than EW, and bigger caps, so where is the problem?

You are quite literally proving the point Neon was making, and his global point as well, we have less players, yet DC travel is a complete disaster right now.

[VoidsentStatus]

So DT should be better without a visitor cap per your own words since the cap was different back then

Yet what we have is an extremely rough DC travel near to lockdown

Are you going to justify that too? How do you justify steps backward, we have less players than EW, and bigger caps, so where is the problem?

You are quite literally proving the point Neon was making, and his global point as well, we have less players, yet DC travel is a complete disaster right now.

So, 2 things:

1) The cap was higher* back then. It always existed from the beginning. They lowered it recently to disencentivize travel. Endwalker didn't have the Aether problem until over time. People didn't flood Aether specifically in the first few months, they flooded everywhere, hence why data center travel time used to be 30-60 minutes long until they fixed it.

2) "we have less players than EW" -> I completely ignored this because this is the opposite of what Square said themselves and I'm not going to argue with a company that would be liable to lawsuits with shareholders if they were lying about their statements flat out. Especially when I don't have any numbers myself. I didn't track how many ppl were in limsa, gridania, uldah, every open world zone, and every instanced zone on every single world for a data region given people could've moved over the last 3 years, and do all of that again for DT for me to be speaking factually instead of making assumptions off of my limited observations.

[Bladesinger]

Long story here so TLDR version: Restrictions for creating a new character on Aether had me and my Wife who's home DC is Aether along with someone from Behemoth entertain the possibility of re birthing the FC on Dynamis with the chance of transferring the FC House (Large in LB with fully unlocked workshop and Rank 29 perks unlocked) Decided after reading a description regarding relocating to another plot VERY NEARLY cost us YEARS AND YEARS of work and subscription payments to maintain the plot for us and am now facing the possibility that I will not be able to return my Wife and Co-Leader to Aether.


Her account says she's eligible to transfer back 3 days after the transfer to Dynamis but with this news that it could be up to 90 days to return here has me in a state of panic, are there fail safes regarding bad transfers being able to return to their home datacenters or are we screwed?

[Bladesinger]

Long story here so TLDR version: Restrictions for creating a new character on Aether had me and my Wife who's home DC is Aether along with someone from Behemoth entertain the possibility of re birthing the FC on Dynamis with the chance of transferring the FC House (Large in LB with fully unlocked workshop and Rank 29 perks unlocked) Decided after reading a description regarding relocating to another plot VERY NEARLY cost us YEARS AND YEARS of work and subscription payments to maintain the plot for us and am now facing the possibility that I will not be able to return my Wife and Co-Leader to Aether.


Her account says she's eligible to transfer back 3 days after the transfer to Dynamis but with this news that it could be up to 90 days to return here has me in a state of panic, are there fail safes regarding bad transfers being able to return to their home datacenters or are we screwed?

I'd be willing to pay to get her back...Just FYI..

[SophiaDL]

I'd be willing to pay to get her back...Just FYI..

After a transfer to Dynamis, you are stuck there for 90 days, there's no fail safe or way around it. Paid or not.

It's laughable how bad these changes are. I manage to get into an Aether server, then it tells me basically to go back where I came from, because it's too congested for me to log in. Okay? Why let me transfer then?

Then I can't transfer to a different data center for an unknown time period. So I'm just stuck? What a trash system. I guess the only option is to go back to my home world server and have no chance to play with my friends. Functional system.

Some people on this very forum will tell you that this is "for the greater good and that dynamis needs to grow and people need to stop going to aether"

yet this helps neither of those two.

[VoidsentStatus]

Long story here so TLDR version: Restrictions for creating a new character on Aether had me and my Wife who's home DC is Aether along with someone from Behemoth entertain the possibility of re birthing the FC on Dynamis with the chance of transferring the FC House (Large in LB with fully unlocked workshop and Rank 29 perks unlocked) Decided after reading a description regarding relocating to another plot VERY NEARLY cost us YEARS AND YEARS of work and subscription payments to maintain the plot for us and am now facing the possibility that I will not be able to return my Wife and Co-Leader to Aether.


Her account says she's eligible to transfer back 3 days after the transfer to Dynamis but with this news that it could be up to 90 days to return here has me in a state of panic, are there fail safes regarding bad transfers being able to return to their home datacenters or are we screwed?

Stuck. 3 days is the lockout for transfering to any home world so you can't just change home worlds every single day. However, new world classifications have a 90 day restriction imposed that I'm assuming is meant to promote people giving it a legitimate chance before hopping back. Though can you expand on the housing issue? I don't understand the "chance of transferring the FC House" section. My best assumption is something along the lines of:
- You were an Aether main
- You went to Dynamis wanting to get a particular plot
- you were not able to get said plot
- you bought a different plot instead, and while waiting you leveled your workshop and other things
- plot became available and you didn't realize the relocation consequences
- you now don't have the plot you originally wanted while having an FC full of resources and years of effort on Dynamis you're stuck with
- you find yourself unable to return to Aether as well

[Bladesinger]

Stuck. 3 days is the lockout for transfering to any home world so you can't just change home worlds every single day. However, new world classifications have a 90 day restriction imposed that I'm assuming is meant to promote people giving it a legitimate chance before hopping back. Though can you expand on the housing issue? I don't understand the "chance of transferring the FC House" section. My best assumption is something along the lines of:
- You were an Aether main
- You went to Dynamis wanting to get a particular plot
- you were not able to get said plot
- you bought a different plot instead, and while waiting you leveled your workshop and other things
- plot became available and you didn't realize the relocation consequences
- you now don't have the plot you originally wanted while having an FC full of resources and years of effort on Dynamis you're stuck with
- you find yourself unable to return to Aether as well

Not at all - 2 out of the 3 of us made the transfer to Dynamis one of which is my RL wife with all the FC Gil and the idea that the FC House is relocatable because of a quote regarding relocating FC houses to another plot that wasn't very clear if it was possible across data centers. I stayed once it was clear that was NOT going to be the case It would have been a fresh FC with a 30 day lockout from purchasing a new FC house regardless of the plot - It's ok but extremely frustrating because one - Wife is stuck on Dynamis with no ability to even visit but is totally self sufficient and do what she's been doing and 2 - We haven't lost years and years of work from my FC but have to wait up to 90 days to start bringing folks back =(

[VoidsentStatus]

Not at all - 2 out of the 3 of us made the transfer to Dynamis one of which is my RL wife with all the FC Gil and the idea that the FC House is relocatable because of a quote regarding relocating FC houses to another plot that wasn't very clear if it was possible across data centers. I stayed once it was clear that was NOT going to be the case It would have been a fresh FC with a 30 day lockout from purchasing a new FC house regardless of the plot - It's ok but extremely frustrating because one - Wife is stuck on Dynamis with no ability to even visit but is totally self sufficient and do what she's been doing and 2 - We haven't lost years and years of work from my FC but have to wait up to 90 days to start bringing folks back =(

Aahhhh, okay. Well, if it helps any, in terms of running content if you have enough people of if you just want transfer gil every blue moon you could:
- create a Dynamis alt
- use an Aether alt
- send both to OCE/Materia where failure of data center travel is 0% because of extremely low population in order to trade gil and if they get temporarily stuck trying to return to home world it's fine because you can still run content on main and just fetch the gil in non-congestion hours on one side instead of both sides needing to be available
- self queue into dungeons or raids depending on how many people you have.

I'm actually somewhat surprised most statics aren't meeting up OCE instead of Dynamis just because it's a guaranteed transfer. Sure it doesn't have access to a decent MB like that or other players for visual effect, but in terms of pure raiding it's way easier.