[Feedback] Data Center Travel Changes

[VoidsentStatus]

I'm forced to camp there

You're forced to camp there because too many of your peers decided to stay there. Thousands of players staying where they're not supposed to be for 4-24 hours a day. You may be doing the right thing, but other people say screw you and your venue, I want to AFK/do content on this world for half a day+ and treat it like my main data center, and therefore ruined it for people like you.

I debated the idea of if Square would ever put a hard timer on how many hours you could be a visitor or traveler per day before kicking your character back to the login queue where you had to log in back to your home world and you were stuck there like a deserter penalty so no 3rd party software would just let you afk mindlessly. And during periods of congestion, Home DC PvE duties will grant a free 20% XP Buff until level 90, 10% XP Buff until level 100, level 100 players get 25% extra tomes until a cap for the day.

[xanatosdc]

You're forced to camp there because too many of your peers decided to stay there. Thousands of players staying where they're not supposed to be for 4-24 hours a day. You may be doing the right thing, but other people say screw you and your venue, I want to AFK/do content on this world for half a day+ and treat it like my main data center, and therefore ruined it for people like you.

I debated the idea of if Square would ever put a hard timer on how many hours you could be a visitor or traveler per day before kicking your character back to the login queue where you had to log in back to your home world and you were stuck there like a deserter penalty so no 3rd party software would just let you afk mindlessly. And during periods of congestion, Home DC PvE duties will grant a free 20% XP Buff until level 90, 10% XP Buff until level 100, level 100 players get 25% extra tomes until a cap for the day.

I don't run a venue. And how, exactly, are people supposed to run their venue where they are (on Aether) AND at the same time on some random other DC? Nevermind that you'd have to transfer your character there, or make a new one, and lose all progress in your FC when you do that.

This is not useful and bs advice. SE just needs to fix their dumpster fire. The social scene is dying and they don't care at all.

[VoidsentStatus]

I don't run a venue. And how, exactly, are people supposed to run their venue where they are (on Aether) AND at the same time on some random other DC? Nevermind that you'd have to transfer your character there, or make a new one, and lose all progress in your FC when you do that.

You don't run both. You stop the main location, and change the announcement tag, your PF's, your shoutruns and your flyers to the new location. Making a new character is 1 day of leveling to reach level 50 to buy personal housing because the new worlds all have massive xp buffs. FC housing doesn't even require level 50 so it's barely a few hours just to reach grand company level to create an FC. As for progress on the FC, none of that is remotely important to baseline functionality. Your submarines/airships still exist and can be used, but don't function as a part of venue openings, same goes for crafting. The only part that is usable during an opening is the private chambers, and if your staff was paid properly, they should have their own apartment/housing instead of being reliant on the one's you had. The venue provided rooms are meant to be there for QoL, but not out of necessity. Most staff will eventually decorate their own housing for their specific type of rp anyway so a chunk of them that don't live on congested worlds are going to be fine. For the one's that are on congested places, most venues don't have more than 3-5 sessions happening at one time. Even if you were high end and had 10 sessions overlapped, cancel 1-2 openings, spend that day leveling with everyone in party that would've been at the opening anyway, and hit level 50 and be done. 5-10 characters to level 50 when you should have a staff line up of 20-30 people by the time you hit that level of concurrent demand, is not hard. Any of the staff being bought consistently opening to opening should have plenty of gil to make their own apartment/house on a non-congested world and not need to use the baseline 5-10 rooms a venue has. Not to mention they'd want their own place anyway to be able to lock the building since most have out of opening rp sessions as well that'd be affected if they were in a congested location. Most venues don't even start with more than 3-5 rooms if they have any at all. It's only a gil check. You wouldn't be out of commission for months out of necessity. You'd be out of commission for months due to laziness.

This is not useful and bs advice. SE just needs to fix their dumpster fire. The social scene is dying and they don't care at all.

You just answered your own question, who fixes something they don't care about at the moment.

[Rueby]

That sounds like you all just need to talk to each other more. Whereas it IS an issue if I can't go to the venue my friends run, because I can't even get to Aether.

The fact that the mob mentality of assigning a raid DC and everyone piles on said DC is a problem. SE loves segregating us because...whatever excuse they want to come up with to not give us cross DC PF/DF. People want to play together but we still get more DCs added to SEPERATE people.

As it stands, piling up in one place hurts the place being drained of its players. It makes sense that people want to play together, but you can't turn a blind eye to the problems it causes. I don't want DC travel to go away, I've always been excited for it, I always wanted to visit my NA friends on my main (EU), I love NA, it's way more social...but my ping is bad and I honestly don't have it in me to commit to leveling with that ping.

Yet people brand anyone frustrated with being on the dying DC as anti-dc or anti-social...?? I'm sorry what...I get you're upset that you can't go where you want to be. If I go to another DC to follow the herd, I'm stranded from my friendlist, FC (chest/chat/buffs), retainers (that I pay for), all linkshells. I used DC travel casually, I never used it to camp there, I always used my local (dying) PF. Yet somehow I don't have a social life? Okay!

I hate restrictions and I hate being on the dying DC.

The reason why you can't see your friends is mostly because everyone and their aunt wants to be on aether to PF/raid and I reckon this might be why the restrictions are there.

I stayed politely in my little dying DC and never contributed to the problem, occasionally used DC travel to do BA/PVP rather than camp the other DC.

I don't think they expected people to use DC travel this way but this shows a desire for people to play together esp high end content, idk why they're not prioritizing cross DC PF/DF and instead we get this eyebleed graphical update....It'd fix your problem and my problem, plenty of people who raid will have access to other DC PFs from the comfort of their own server, reducing the need to physically be there. This would likely free space for people to use DC travel for social things and hang out with others. That's how I see it anyway.

I refrained from commenting further in this thread because some people are more interested in being upset and getting mad at anyone who feels otherwise. I'm sorry that you can't meet your friends, but being snide towards me or others won't make you see them either.

[Sourcy]

Maybe something like adding instances to major cities could help? Anything to increase the count and reduce load.

Balmung right now is watching what little bit of RP community and events it had left die as half our visitor slots or more all sit in front of the quicksands in smallclothes doing /beesknees.

Honestly just do a pass by there once a week and throw out monthbans.

[Gember]

Maybe something like adding instances to major cities could help? Anything to increase the count and reduce load.

Balmung right now is watching what little bit of RP community and events it had left die as half our visitor slots or more all sit in front of the quicksands in smallclothes doing /beesknees.

Honestly just do a pass by there once a week and throw out monthbans.

I do have a question. Does the server prioritize residential players first and visitors second? Or does it just let in whoever is in line first?

[VoidsentStatus]

I do have a question. Does the server prioritize residential players first and visitors second? Or does it just let in whoever is in line first?

Residential Guests > Finished DC Travel Guests/World Visit people at main menu (cares about population cap) > Starting DC Travel Guests/World Hop Users (cares about population cap & login queue size)

[Tyark]

I will chime in and say the changes in 7.05 on DC travel restrictions are not working for myself personally or for my static. I'm apart of a group that tries to raid on Aether (since 6/8 are on Aether) and unless I log-in first thing in the morning and go squat on Aether for 10 hours before raid time, I'm rarely making it over in time for raid. This is now week 4 and have never seen the DC travel be this restrictive.

I understand and appreciate what the team is trying to accomplish but this is not working. Cross-DC pf's discussed previously during LFTP/PLL really does sound like the best fix but I'm not going to act like I understand the server/networking infrastructure of how FFXIV is configured. Whatever can be changed to help alleviate the current congestion (even if it's going back to 7.0/7.01 configuration) would be better at this point.

[Menriq]

I'm of the opinion that cross DC PF would resolve a lot of these issues. I know for me, if there was cross DC PF, I would hardly ever have to leave my DC.

[Toutatis]

I'm of the opinion that cross DC PF would resolve a lot of these issues. I know for me, if there was cross DC PF, I would hardly ever have to leave my DC.

I think that would be for the best. Atm I am quite happy with the situation as Primal's PF is finally very lively again. I had stopped using it before as I hated DC travel and having to play the PF waiting game with nothing to do in the meantime.