[Feedback] Data Center Travel Changes

[VoidsentStatus]

"Everything else"

They tried nothing though ? lmao

If you really think giving a mediocre mount for transferring is an incentive, I dont know what to tell you

Transferring to the data center is not the solution to the problem. The problem is people travelling in itself, their home world doesn't matter. Yoshi P said he wanted to get rid of disparities between different data centers so he doesn't want a large population being or interacting on any given data center at all. If people traveled and spread out, we wouldn't have this problem, but everyone chooses to dogpile one place consistently. No amount of reward for being on a data center is going to unincentivize travel to other data centers that often have staple community aspects that aren't easily challenged by a new data center. Square can't do anything that makes raiding more popular on Dynamis than raiding on Aether. Square can't do anything that makes roleplaying on Dynamis more popular than roleplaying on Crystal. incetivizing isn't the route to take because anything they even try to create is going to just a new create dogpile to replace the old one. They need people to stop travelling at all, or to only allow a small amount of travel that doesn't cause giant economic/gameplay polarizations between data centers.

[VoidsentStatus]

Yeah we are way past that now, the big problem is that they are trying to populate Dynamis still now after the patch but are actually making Dynamis worse (and making people leave Dynamis)

This is going to go agaisnt their plans, the people that were already on dyna before the patch and are still unable to DC travel, have statics on other dcs or even friends, will move away, just like I did, while the ones that moved while DC travel was down will leave the minute their 3 months of being stuck there are up.

This is not going to work the way people (and SE) think it will. This is damaging the DC and will continue to do so until reverted, people wont travel there with the risk of being stuck on it.

10 Pf's right now on Dynamis for end-game content, good job SE. This one is on yall, not the players.

10 pf's at 9:30am-12:30pm for US. Dynamis had 40-60 PF's for Savage yesterday night. And you're forgetting, you can only go where Square lets you go. You're not moving anywhere unless Square wants you to. It doesn't matter how much you hate Dynamis and want to move to Aether, home world transfer and new character creation isn't available. You will only move somewhere with Square's permission because they control that.

[SophiaDL]

10 pf's at 9:30am-12:30pm for US. Dynamis had 40-60 PF's for Savage yesterday night. And you're forgetting, you can only go where Square lets you go. You're not moving anywhere unless Square wants you to. It doesn't matter how much you hate Dynamis and want to move to Aether, home world transfer and new character creation isn't available. You will only move somewhere with Square's permission because they control that.

I literally moved to Mateus the second transfer opened on patch day, and world transfer is still open to this day, only dc travel is a problem.

As for aether yeah you cant world transfer, but any other DC is better than Dynamis, more than happy to have moved.

Also if they cant make Dynamis work, then move the worlds around to existing dcs, they did in the past, now is the time for it, blocking DC travel is forcing people to transfer to other more alive DC's, not keep people there.

World transfer in the mog station IS open to all of the worlds in green on the official server status page https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/worldstatus/

[VoidsentStatus]

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Moving the worlds to existing dcs isn't on the table. That defeats the purpose of why Dynamis was created to begin with. There's physical hardware tied to each Data Center and Dynamis was created to relieve stress on the other one's. They're not moving worlds to another Data Center. At best, they'd swap worlds and take say Gilgamesh/Balmung and move them to Dynamis and swap them for say Maduin/Marilith, and all that would do is make people swap off in some cases. If you're allowed to move to a world, it's because Square is fine with you moving there. They've kept Balmung congested for 6+ months in the past, they've kept the entire Mana Data Center congested for almost a year. Square doesn't function under an entitlement to open a given world or Data Center after a certain period of time. As of rn, all of Aether is gone, but so is half of Crystal and half of Primal. And if people exodus from Dynamis to that remaining half, Square is just going to lock those as well. Aether historically was never fully congested like Mana was, they always had 2-3 worlds open but decided to x the entire thing. Crystal and Primal will get locked as well if it comes to that, or they'll just x travel period other than Dynamis.

I also have no idea what you mean by more alive DC's because I don't think you were here when Dynamis launched. I've been on Hali since Day 1. We had no casual pvp queue, at all, even in prime hours. I could literally queue up my alts, and barely find 2-4 people queue'd for Crystalline Conflict at any time of the day. Ranked PvP was so dead that it only happened for the first few days of a 3+ month season outside of when a pvp discord hosted an event. I'd go to Limsa and barely see 10 people. I'd look in PF, and I'd see roleplay PF's tripling PvE content because PvE was always less than 5 PF's even at night. You were expected to go to other data centers for roulette's and MSQ content. Now I can go to Limsa and see 40+ people. Now I can run my roulette's past midnight, including alliance raids. Now I can queue Crystalline Conflict throughout the day for series xp on Dynamis. Now I can queue MSQ content on Dynamis. For 2 years, our content didn't exist at all. So you complaining about 10 PF's in the morning, when that was double prime time PF's FOR YEARS, sounds extremely ungrateful for a data center that's been alive for basically only 1 month. For Dynamis to be functionally 1 month old, and to have half the PF'sduring prime hours for savage as Primal, that's half a decade+ old, is wild in itself. You over here talking like Dynamis is about to die, and this is the first sign of life IN YEARS that it's had. You don't sound like a Dynamis native at all.

[SophiaDL]

Moving the worlds to existing dcs isn't on the table. That defeats the purpose of why Dynamis was created to begin with. There's physical hardware tied to each Data Center and Dynamis was created to relieve stress on the other one's. They're not moving worlds to another Data Center. At best, they'd swap worlds and take say Gilgamesh/Balmung and move them to Dynamis and swap them for say Maduin/Marilith, and all that would do is make people swap off in some cases. If you're allowed to move to a world, it's because Square is fine with you moving there. They've kept Balmung congested for 6+ months in the past, they've kept the entire Mana Data Center congested for almost a year. Square doesn't function under an entitlement to open a given world or Data Center after a certain period of time. As of rn, all of Aether is gone, but so is half of Crystal and half of Primal. And if people exodus from Dynamis to that remaining half, Square is just going to lock those as well. Aether historically was never fully congested like Mana was, they always had 2-3 worlds open but decided to x the entire thing. Crystal and Primal will get locked as well if it comes to that, or they'll just x travel period other than Dynamis.

I also have no idea what you mean by more alive DC's because I don't think you were here when Dynamis launched. I've been on Hali since Day 1. We had no casual pvp queue, at all, even in prime hours. I could literally queue up my alts, and barely find 2-4 people queue'd for Crystalline Conflict at any time of the day. Ranked PvP was so dead that it only happened for the first few days of a 3+ month season outside of when a pvp discord hosted an event. I'd go to Limsa and barely see 10 people. I'd look in PF, and I'd see roleplay PF's tripling PvE content because PvE was always less than 5 PF's even at night. You were expected to go to other data centers for roulette's and MSQ content. Now I can go to Limsa and see 40+ people. Now I can run my roulette's past midnight, including alliance raids. Now I can queue Crystalline Conflict throughout the day for series xp on Dynamis. Now I can queue MSQ content on Dynamis. For 2 years, our content didn't exist at all. So you complaining about 10 PF's in the morning, when that was double prime time PF's FOR YEARS, sounds extremely ungrateful for a data center that's been alive for basically only 1 month. For Dynamis to be functionally 1 month old, and to have half the PF'sduring prime hours for savage as Primal, that's half a decade+ old, is wild in itself. You over here talking like Dynamis is about to die, and this is the first sign of life IN YEARS that it's had. You don't sound like a Dynamis native at all.

I really dont think we'll agree in any case, you think that this will help, I do not, agree to disagree really, time will tell.

[Neon231]

"Visiting players can't login right now due to congestion."

*tries again*

"Players in queue: 33"

Bro, please change this shit. This game is not nearly as congested as it was when End Walker released. Stop the cap.

[SophiaDL]

"Visiting players can't login right now due to congestion."

*tries again*

"Players in queue: 33"

Bro, please change this shit. This game is not nearly as congested as it was when End Walker released. Stop the cap.

At this point they are just pretending that the game is more alive than it is, and it's quite pathetic to say the least.

Like dont take me wrong, the game aint anywhere near dying, but this aint EW anymore, this whole congestion stuff needs to stop. This is the same vibe as "this world is full" before DT when you logged in and had a queue, which was making it seem like the game server was actually full, while in reality it was the login server that was full and the only reason was because they logged people in batches, in reality it wasnt even congested.

The amount of bad decisions this expansion really is astounding, and the actual begging of SE to try and populate a dead DC that no one wants to go to except for housing is honestly just as pathetic, people dont want to go there, leave people alone, you created Dynamis, its your own fault, not the players. Stop trying to force players into a dead DC they dont want to be in.

[SalamanderIX]

I liked it far better before DC Travel. I had an alt on crystal for taking part in Crystal activities, etc. My main was on Primal. If I wanted to do things there, I could always go on my alt. If I wanted that to be my focus, I could always world transfer.

Now, we got to the point where DC travel has drained Primal of activities. Crystal and Aether monopolized the things they were known for, leaving Primal as a husk. Even with the launch restricting DC travel it has not recovered, and I would love to move my character at this point, but am not allowed to due to travel restrictions.

Anyway bottom line is, we can't undo DC travel now that it's done, too many peoples raiding groups etc rely on it now (though honestly, if I was in charge I'd still cancel DC travel). The damage to economies, local communities such as free companies, and raiding is immense. It hasn't been worth it, all so some casuals wouldn't have to bother making an alt to visit friends. Ultimately DC Travel has been so immensely damaging and pointless, and the current restrictions underscore just how much so.

[Ayalu]

I was looking forward to intercontinental Data Center Travel.
Not for raiding or anything just to visit friend on NA Data Centers.

[CuteBucket]

I'm getting less errors at this point, and I thankfully managed to actually get together with my static on Dynamis the last two days. Maybe they fixed some bugs? Still think this change is a bad idea though.