[Feedback] Data Center Travel Changes

[sylphlands]

This change is a direct response to the community choosing to pile on one DC at the expense of every other DC, which wasn't an issue at Endwalker's launch since DC travel didn't exist. If you want to be mad at someone be mad at everyone who participated in the dogpile.

Kudos to Yoship and the devs for delivering when they said they were going to do something about it. The change is great.

I'd rather take up my gripes with the company I give money to than the players who used a system that the company put in place. They created DC travel and players took them up on it. Now people are hardlocked out of logging in because they happened to DC travel. This is going to have a terrible effect players who travel for socializing and RP venues, not just raiders going to Aether or whatever.

[CidHeiral]

They created DC travel and players took them up on it.

This is the same justification people use every time they game the system and eventually get checked. "Oh well you created the alliance raid roulette the way it is so why shouldn't I cheese the ilvl? WTF YOU FIXED IT THIS IS AN OUTRAGE THE GAME IS RUINED!!1!"

This is going to have a terrible effect players who travel for socializing and RP venues, not just raiders going to Aether or whatever.

Not as terrible as what the Aether dogpile was doing to the rest of the game so it's a net positive.

[caffe_macchiato]

This is what happens when you attempt Crystal > Dynamis. Was it a near-miss? I assume that the classic Aether/Dynamis meta is dead and we're back to the way things used to be?

This change is a direct response to the community choosing to pile on one DC at the expense of every other DC, which wasn't an issue at Endwalker's launch since DC travel didn't exist. If you want to be mad at someone be mad at everyone who participated in the dogpile.

Kudos to Yoship and the devs for delivering when they said they were going to do something about it. The change is great.

You realize that Square Enix Holdings Co., Ltd. isn't doing so well, right? I agree that Yoshida hasn't made the best decisions during Endwalker, especially with DC travel, but we should hope for him to improve things in a more constructive manner. Right now people aren't able to log in.

[kajv95]

Europe here, it's a disaster. Met some great people right before Dawntrail on the other datacenter, formed a little group split down the middle between Chaos and Light. Then they announce we're basically not gonna be able to do content together for the first 4 weeks. Okay, fine. Now they "lift the lock" but made it so much worse. My group planned maps with the release and it seriously took an HOUR to try and figure out where we'd go because changing datacenters to restock maps just isn't going to cut it. And this was on Omega, a world that's not even known to be filled to the brim. A world that had a "queue" of 23 while it was kicking the others out over being "congested."

Now we're not sure if we're going to be able to properly do synced content together at all, because adding upwards of an hour just to be able to coexist is genuinely awful.

This is probably their solution to try and keep PF localized within datacenters again to hopefully avoid actually having to solve the "universal PF" problem and sure, it's working to an extent, but this is coming YEARS too late, when many people have formed cross-dc connections. I've been incredibly happy with the expansion, story aside, but this is genuinely giving me cause to unsubscribe because at this point I might as well go play a game with them that *does* let me play with them.

[MrMordio]

A member of my raid group got disconnected during raid and couldn't log back in without first taking 20 minutes to return to his home world, and then he wasn't able to travel back to Primal from Aether.

We all had to transfer to Dynamis. We've been in the queue for 30 minutes and still can't get back to raid.

[SLZ]

this change entirely screws up everyone of the game, to people who want to raid, all the way to people that just want to hang with a friend. I really hope they revert this change soon

[Rogovi]

There was very little thought put into the actual repercussions of this change. All it does is punish players that decided to make friends or join raid groups outside of their data center. Punishing players for using a game feature to play and interact with more people in an MMO just doesn't make sense. All it does is segment the community into their own little server ecosystems, making it so data center travel might as well just not exist at all.

I was lucky enough to log in early enough to travel to my static's data center for raid tonight and now I am actually terrified to log out as there is a good chance that I will not be able to log back into their data center for our next raid night.

I data center travel every single raid night in order to raid so I do not see a problem with Aether being the server everyone piles onto to use party finder, especially if the alternative is to seriously inconvenience every single cross data center group in the game whether they be hard core raid groups or casual social groups.

If you want to actually fix people piling into aether for party finder then the solution is cross data center party finder, and if you are worried about people having to data center travel for duty roulette then consider incentivizing people with some extra experience or tomes for using duty roulette on their home world.

This change is the most anti-fun change this game has introduced for both the casuals and hard core players and does nothing but make me frustrated to try and play with my friends.

[VoidsentStatus]

the solution is cross data center party finder, and if you are worried about people having to data center travel for duty roulette then consider incentivizing people with some extra experience or tomes for using duty roulette on their home world.
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They already mentioned both of these and why they won't work/aren't preferred.
The first is 2-3+ years of resources assuming it's even possible. And they have to weigh all of that time against something that's more beneficial to the game.
The second just shifts the data center that everyone loads into including overwhelming the native people's login queue timers.

They literally talked about shutting off cross data center on stream as one of the solutions if things came down to it because at the end of the day, breaking up statics and venues is better having 75% of your region with no access to current raid tier PF content. If people actually handled the responsibility of data center travel properly and just visited other worlds instead of staying there all day and doing everything from there content wise, we wouldn't have been in this situation. Aether had 3-5k logins at Dawntrail with cross data center disabled. Their servers would've been massacred if it was triple by travel. They need to shut off people grouping up and have them spread out for hardware stability and overall content health.

[floofykyn]

Very unhappy with this change. I had a cross dc static from the start of dc travel to the end of endwalker. Even outside of raiding we met up for maps, mount farming, weddings (or after parties for the cross dc people), community events. We met up on dynamis for maps during dawntrails first month!

Some of us were hoping to get some day one prog in...... and then half of us got stuck in the crash loop for hours. Maybe if I'd been told of this change before I could've had my alt geared up and ready to raid and not my main, but honestly that's not fun.

I realize that dc travel causes issues and server strain but this was poorly thought out and not communicated at all for a game I pay a monthly subscription for...