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Thread: Ruined BLM

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    Ruined BLM

    So I know I can speak for alot here, at least most of the other Black Mage mains I have spoken to all agree that they are no longer going to be playing Black Mage.

    With each expansion they have either squished abilities, removed high magics, or made the rotation much more difficult.

    I do NOT for one moment believe anyone on their development team or Production team actually plays as a black mage. The recent changes in DT have made BLM unplayable with the broken opener that is near impossible to get. Let's not forget to mention the horrible changes to transpose and forced-use of a low level bliz spell just to restore mana.

    I know this will bring hate and I really don't care because I have been playing BLM since ARR was current and I can tell you, im done with black mage. You cannot play it with the massive over-use of mechanic overlap, and we might get one or two hits in on a boss before it's dead.

    When a fight its more about moving around to avoid things, its no longer a fight but an obstacle course. I DO NOT want obstacle courses, or to constantly have to move to avoid something. If this is your template design for BLM you are going to ruin the legacy of BLM. Where are our high magics, Ultima? Meteor (since we never get to use it make it an actual spell like oh idk EVERY other FF), Time magics, Bio, Blink, Gravija? These are ALL native to black mage, no one uses flare so that little mp credit given for using after another spell means nothing to me, I still wont use it.

    This dev team has no idea what BLM really is, did Yoshi even play any of the squaresoft Final Fantasies as BLM? Doubt it, and it's showing.

    Blm should be able to start a cast, move around, have the cast pause while moving, and then continue off where it was when we stop moving, stop making us not be able to cast.

    End Rant.
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    As a BLM main myself, I can completely understand this sentiment...

    ....A day ago, but are you seriously having trouble with BLM with the patch changes?
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    I'm merely leveling blm. And it feels like the one thing they need is thunder and xenoglossy on ogcd.
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    Honestly Xenoglossy on OCGD wouldn't make much difference just because of how long the castimes are for BLM. One of the uses for Xeno is to enable OGCD Weaving.

    *Thunder* on the other hand I could absolutely see, especially since going from Ice with Fire III or vise versa is a fast enough cast *to* OGCD. It would fit in perfectly.
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    Mch to Blm:
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    I may be taking the bait, but...

    Did...You just call time magic native to black magic? Gravija? BLINK?
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    I use Flare in combat.
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    Lilimo Limomo
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    I know I'm taking the bait, but that's fine:

    I've been playing BLM since ARR, and it's always been my favorite class. Even when it has stumbled, it has always had an overall elegant design that I simply haven't been able to find in the other jobs.

    Did I find Dawntrail's changes to BLM to be disappointing? Overall, yes. While there were some improvements in places, the class overall became more rigid, and that's the opposite of what I wanted.

    But have things become so bad that I'm abandoning the class? Absolutely not! For starters, there's nowhere else to go. I loved Endwalker BLM, and the closest thing to it that I can still play is Dawntrail BLM. And in spite of its blemishes, I'm still having a very nice time with it. And the more I play it, the more it's grown on me, despite the fact that I would still make some meaningful tweaks if I could. And just today BLM got some meaningful improvements, so if I was having a nice time with the job yesterday (I was) then today is going to be even better.

    And as far as fights that make you run around go: BRING IT ON. In my opinion, BLM has far too many instant-casts, so the devs may as well encourage us to use them. And being forced to react to AoE's and the like is part of what makes me love playing BLM; the need to improvise while weighing various timers and opportunities stimulates my brain in a way that other classes have never been able to. I have zero problems with the current fight design.

    To be clear, if your disappointment with the changes have made it so that you can't stand playing in anymore, that's fine. Emotions be like that sometimes. So if you're done with the class, that's your call to make.
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    I have given up on BLM completely with the DT changes.

    Went to Picto and never looked back.
    They went against anything that made BLM what it was and while the return of Ice Paradox (funny how they bring something back some people were adamant as not being needed with the changes) and the change of Umbral soul are nice it's not enough for me.
    Thunder in this form is stupid, Flare is still a joke and the animations and effects are extremely underwhelming.
    Even the fights are more unforgiving then before.

    As long as that job stays this rigid and unflexible I give it the could shoulder.
    Let it rot for all I care because the devs don't anymore, maybe if enough people quit it we will see a change or not.

    Maybe 8.0 brings something good till then I stay with my brush and maybe level BLM in Frontlines if I even bother at all.
    I even had a keychain of the job stone in my car but that was thrown into the trunk of my car somewhere...

    What I don't get is why these changes now are braking the camels back because they actually revert some of the bad stuff tbh but whatever.
    Hope you find a job to have fun with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basteala View Post
    Honestly Xenoglossy on OCGD wouldn't make much difference just because of how long the castimes are for BLM. One of the uses for Xeno is to enable OGCD Weaving.

    *Thunder* on the other hand I could absolutely see, especially since going from Ice with Fire III or vise versa is a fast enough cast *to* OGCD. It would fit in perfectly.
    Xenoglossy on oGCD would make an enormous difference, negatively. It's a bankable high potency spell and a movement tool because of the instant cast.
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