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    Ruined BLM

    So I know I can speak for alot here, at least most of the other Black Mage mains I have spoken to all agree that they are no longer going to be playing Black Mage.

    With each expansion they have either squished abilities, removed high magics, or made the rotation much more difficult.

    I do NOT for one moment believe anyone on their development team or Production team actually plays as a black mage. The recent changes in DT have made BLM unplayable with the broken opener that is near impossible to get. Let's not forget to mention the horrible changes to transpose and forced-use of a low level bliz spell just to restore mana.

    I know this will bring hate and I really don't care because I have been playing BLM since ARR was current and I can tell you, im done with black mage. You cannot play it with the massive over-use of mechanic overlap, and we might get one or two hits in on a boss before it's dead.

    When a fight its more about moving around to avoid things, its no longer a fight but an obstacle course. I DO NOT want obstacle courses, or to constantly have to move to avoid something. If this is your template design for BLM you are going to ruin the legacy of BLM. Where are our high magics, Ultima? Meteor (since we never get to use it make it an actual spell like oh idk EVERY other FF), Time magics, Bio, Blink, Gravija? These are ALL native to black mage, no one uses flare so that little mp credit given for using after another spell means nothing to me, I still wont use it.

    This dev team has no idea what BLM really is, did Yoshi even play any of the squaresoft Final Fantasies as BLM? Doubt it, and it's showing.

    Blm should be able to start a cast, move around, have the cast pause while moving, and then continue off where it was when we stop moving, stop making us not be able to cast.

    End Rant.
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    As a BLM main myself, I can completely understand this sentiment...

    ....A day ago, but are you seriously having trouble with BLM with the patch changes?
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    I'm merely leveling blm. And it feels like the one thing they need is thunder and xenoglossy on ogcd.
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    Honestly Xenoglossy on OCGD wouldn't make much difference just because of how long the castimes are for BLM. One of the uses for Xeno is to enable OGCD Weaving.

    *Thunder* on the other hand I could absolutely see, especially since going from Ice with Fire III or vise versa is a fast enough cast *to* OGCD. It would fit in perfectly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basteala View Post
    Honestly Xenoglossy on OCGD wouldn't make much difference just because of how long the castimes are for BLM. One of the uses for Xeno is to enable OGCD Weaving.

    *Thunder* on the other hand I could absolutely see, especially since going from Ice with Fire III or vise versa is a fast enough cast *to* OGCD. It would fit in perfectly.
    Xenoglossy on oGCD would make an enormous difference, negatively. It's a bankable high potency spell and a movement tool because of the instant cast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    Xenoglossy on oGCD would make an enormous difference, negatively. It's a bankable high potency spell and a movement tool because of the instant cast.
    I'm just saying that it would overall feel better to play the job if those two in the ogcd since then they wouldn't disrupt your base rotation as they do now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    I'm just saying that it would overall feel better to play the job if those two in the ogcd since then they wouldn't disrupt your base rotation as they do now.
    Xeno is one of our only movement tools and places to weave. It wouldn't help anything. it would make it so much worse.
    What they should do is give the hard cast back to Paradox. That way, even at the lowest spell speeds you have the time for four GCDs before Paradox and four GCDs after.
    At base spell speed, you've got time for three after if you want to still get the Despair cast off, and you can get five before Paradox, but only if two of them are of base spell speed. (aka, not Fire IV)
    So your options for your rotation are 4 FireIV -> Paradox -> 2 FireIV -> Despair or 3 FireIV -> Paradox -> 3 FireIV -> Despair. and if you chose the latter, I hope you don't need to move at all in the latter half because that means you have to use your fire 3 instant to not drop enochian. And that means a damage loss.

    I feel like I should reiterate that we did just fine in Endwalker as it was. Any "problems" that these changes serve to fix are just unnecessary. I say this as someone who's cleared the first three turns of the new savage tier. I'd still rather have old Black Mage back.
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    I may be taking the bait, but...

    Did...You just call time magic native to black magic? Gravija? BLINK?
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    I use Flare in combat.
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