"The Adventures of RNG!" Top 3 Hamlet Provisioner

[TheVedis]

And yes, I'm well aware that we could pass Scytale all seal drops and get him 9/9 in less than a week. But he can't do the rest of the quest himself...so what's the point? We're not a huge ls...we're trying to get 10 people 9/9. We're like 70% there and have been grinding since the Relic Quest came out....stop telling me 'your group hasn't put in the time'

your group may have put time in but several havent and are complaining that they just dont want to do it

and feel fortunate your only doing 10 people and not 30 like my group is

[Eagleheart]

but when it comes to people who only have time for 2-3 hamlets a week, should we really dumb it down and cater to them to make up for their lack of playtime?

Whatever else may be said about the thread, I think everyone can agree that the above-quoted sentence is wildly amusing.

Dumb it down? The entire point of the thread is the tedium of the event in question. Monotony in gameplay is the opposite of intelligent. One cannot dumb down what is already dumb.

If nothing else, you may wish to restructure your argument, it is not well thought out.

[TheVedis]

If nothing else, you may wish to restructure your argument, it is not well thought out.

and the person claiming they are getting ripped off for not having enough time to make being a provioner worth it is?

thats been the whole point, we get alot of those types, who dont understand the system itself

time = reward, regardless of rng

and hell, people odnt understand what rng even is, everything has it, every game has it, EVERYTHING
but they have 1 instance where it doesnt favor them and they throw a fit

[SuzakuCMX]

and the person claiming they are getting ripped off for not having enough time to make being a provioner worth it is?

thats been the whole point, we get alot of those types, who dont understand the system itself

time = reward, regardless of rng

and hell, people odnt understand what rng even is, everything has it, every game has it, EVERYTHING
but they have 1 instance where it doesnt favor them and they throw a fit

Fuck crit and HQ and dungeon drops and dodging and potency and damage and great success synths and leve distribution! We should all be dealing 100 Damage with every spell and attack and all have the same health/defense/mana!

[Asiaine]

It is SE's 'fault' for introducing a system where you are rewarded for repetition, not for skill. I think most people would prefer to be rewarded for being good, not for how often they are willing to do the task. Here, being good is not enough. You have to also be willing to do it many many times.

It is SE's 'fault' for introducing a system that can be de-moralizing. Consistently seeing one's hard work (collecting items for provisioner status) be all for naught is not exactly what a lot of people would call 'fun'. And we are supposed to be here for 'fun'.

It is the player's 'fault' for not realizing that this is how the world is. They must (especially by now) understand the world is purposely designed to be extremely repetitive, randomized reward system, and a high probability of there being no fruits for their labours.

It is the player's 'fault' for complaining. (Note: It is fine to criticize, offer feedback, ask for change. This is different from just complaining/crying/being sad). We know what the odds are when we go in (or soon after), and we should decide whether or not we wish to participate.

Just like if you go play roulette, then complain that you lost. You should have realized it is a gamble, and you may not be the lucky person to walk away a winner. This is no different. Being provisioner simply means you get to put 4 chips on the table instead of 1, but you could just as easily loose it all.

I'm sorry to the OP (and anyone else) who had to invest a lot of time and did not get enough for their efforts. I truly sympathise. But hopefully everyone fully appreciates by now that this world is meant only to reward the lucky or those who can sink a vast vast amount of time into repeating the same activities over and over.

Please set your expectations accordingly to reduce the chance of being sad in the future.

[Punainen]

Hamlet: A challenge to how big of a group of friends you have, and a challenge to your patience.

A challenge to your skill? Not really.

[Airget]

Hamlet: A challenge to how big of a group of friends you have, and a challenge to your patience.

A challenge to your skill? Not really.

People are always mistaken that Hamlet lacks skill. Just try and do Hamlet with 0 knowledge on the event, I doubt you'll be able to get 60k on your first run because you don't know everything about it. The reason why it's so "easy" is because once you learn the technique involved in the event you put it into play and rely on the other 3 groups to get their job done while your group does their jobs.

If a WHM gets lazy the NPCs die.
If crafters don't craft quick enough the NPC don't have the strength to get hate off other players easier
If the tank doesn't grab the 3 special mobs and keep the NM occupied then you can't hit 60k
If the gatherers don't gather quick enough then the mobs will hit the NPCs harder making it harder on the WHM.

as for the RNG and Top 3, what others have said I do agree, when you plan on going for the top 3 you should only consider it if you have a lot of free time that day. if you go for top 3 and only use it for a few hours it just isn't worth. While yes it may come off as discouraging to only get 1 seal from being 3rd in 6 runs for yourself it is what it is, at least you weren't the person who placed in 4th with only 10k less than you, that person doesn't even get a chance at seals lol. I mean not sure if there was another person competing for place but at least you placed in top 3, nothing worse than spending hours gathering only to be bumped off the top 3, cause then you're in the same loot pool as the 16 people below you lol.

[Grimwald]

The only reason the content is so grindy right now is they're literally trying to scrape their way into 2.0, it's not going to be changed (if at all) till then.

[YuriSan]

The challenging part is not quitting after 300 hours to get one item in a video game.

YESSS!!!!

100% agree on this..
Im already feeling so less into getting a relic after 9 tries at a DB stacked rampager and still not having one.

I Spiritbound over 200ish belts, bracelets and axes to get some TOR IV and out of those 200ish i only got 2 (TWO)
rest i had to buy the rest (about700~900 per) just to fail at the meld itself..

I aint gonna mess around with hamlet. going for #1 provi before doing it.. cant be bothered with RNG there too since i don't have a static or anything...

And totally stupid people keep saying "relics aren't for everyone" i agree. its only for those who get lucky....

[Volfield]

...
- If you're running with a PUG. You're hoping that the seal drops to you.

I think the people that advocate for this RNG system got lucky on their drops and they're just like "Fuck everybody else, I got mine." and would feel less superior running around and seeing more people with relics or militia gear. If this applies to you, you're an idiot.

Describes 100% of the people on these forums that don't "voice their complaints" or "hate on the game, get better nub, quit job for game for item or relic is not for everyone".
You should get a real life friend( or 2) who doesn't play XIV, take them home, explain what a relic is and let them read some of the posts so they could point out how retarded some of the responses are. <.<