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  1. #51
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    Magikazam's Avatar
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    Omori Oatmeal
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    I'll give you the same advice everyone gives healers.

    If you want to do more DPS, go play a different role.
    Yea, Screw those Ranged dps, it not like they fill a ------->DPS<-------- Spot or anything. People are so weird for expecting damage from a role about dealing damage.
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  2. #52
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    Blake Ashwren
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    Seraph
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    Gunbreaker Lv 89
    Quote Originally Posted by Magikazam View Post
    Yea, Screw those Ranged dps, it not like they fill a ------->DPS<-------- Spot or anything. People are so weird for expecting damage from a role about dealing damage.
    Yeah pranged dps is so sadge and mch most of all at least the others kinda compensate with buffs
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  3. #53
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    That's a great advice. Did this and I've been having fun with the game.
    The only downside is that you won't be able to play physical ranged and have fun anymore.
    It's the solution that all the people mocking the healer strike came up with.

    Just switch out, go ignore the problem and quietly watch Square dig that hole deeper.

    Might as well give it out to everyone else who has any problem with any of their Jobs.
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  4. #54
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Adamantoise
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    It's the solution that all the people mocking the healer strike came up with.

    Just switch out, go ignore the problem and quietly watch Square dig that hole deeper.

    Might as well give it out to everyone else who has any problem with any of their Jobs.
    You mean "Play other jobs." but also "Screw you for making our queues longer." and also, also "All the healers I've been getting in my roulettes suck!"

    It's almost as if all of those are related, but what do I know?
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  5. #55
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    Jish'cha Chaha'oh
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    Faerie
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    Samurai Lv 100
    https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/62

    While FFLogs does not speak to all the problems, it does point out where phys range stand compared to everyone else. I do recall a few years ago their argument with Ninja and dancer dps being much lower than others is because it buffed other people. So those dps that did not buff others were supposed to be concidered greedy and do more dps than those who did buff others. Seems they just decided to make this a melee dps world, period. And before we go off on a rant about fflogs being third party and not acceptable, we all know devs do look at it to see where classes stand.
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  6. #56
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    Tunda King
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    Ragnarok
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    You mean "Play other jobs." but also "Screw you for making our queues longer." and also, also "All the healers I've been getting in my roulettes suck!"

    It's almost as if all of those are related, but what do I know?
    it is as clear as sun,

    Healers and tanks are so boring,

    Tanks need to get unique,

    Healers need to get "healing kit" simplified not "DPS kit" which need to have its complexity
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  7. #57
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    Tunda King
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    Ragnarok
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by JC65 View Post
    https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/62

    While FFLogs does not speak to all the problems, it does point out where phys range stand compared to everyone else. I do recall a few years ago their argument with Ninja and dancer dps being much lower than others is because it buffed other people. So those dps that did not buff others were supposed to be concidered greedy and do more dps than those who did buff others. Seems they just decided to make this a melee dps world, period.
    DMG isn't the only problem my dear,

    Risk and reward structure is not there for range physical,

    Melees are more into boss (they have to dodge more compared to other roles)

    Casters have range but also have cast as a downside,

    Phy range have no downsides other than damage which is bad for game balance,

    As I said, Phy range should have Walking cast like PvP kit for Bard and Machinist to make them not only unique but satisfying and balance
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  8. #58
    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Adamantoise
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    it is as clear as sun,

    Healers and tanks are so boring,

    Tanks need to get unique,

    Healers need to get "healing kit" simplified not "DPS kit" which need to have its complexity
    The damn game is so boring now. The game is so simplified, SE thought that adding a button you push every two minutes was peak game design. I'm so tired, man.
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  9. #59
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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    The damn game is so boring now. The game is so simplified, SE thought that adding a button you push every two minutes was peak game design. I'm so tired, man.
    Their solution to having a few buttons to press in a small window every 2 minutes is adding more buttons to press in a small window every 2 minutes.
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  10. #60
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    Jish'cha Chaha'oh
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    Faerie
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    DMG isn't the only problem my dear,

    Risk and reward structure is not there for range physical,

    Melees are more into boss (they have to dodge more compared to other roles)

    Casters have range but also have cast as a downside,

    Phy range have no downsides other than damage which is bad for game balance,

    As I said, Phy range should have Walking cast like PvP kit for Bard and Machinist to make them not only unique but satisfying and balance
    Yes and no. Phys range are normally given the mechanic tasks that do not require positionals, honestly in some ways when I played monk it was more braindead since you just attack, move to positional attack. Melee can ignore a lot more mechanics than phys range since we are asked to do more. I guess it depends on the group, but phys range are tasked with making sure they are out enough that melee can keep their uptime, yet get back in for a stack. Phys range is no less challenging in many respects as they have to have their head on a swivel while the melee just punch away. No dps has it much easier than others. And why should blm be so far ahead of us on dps, they actually have it easier with the porting around and almost complete magic immunity at times.
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