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    It's maddening. A few months ago Yoshi-P said that they were done with oversimplifications, and now, about a month after Viper was released, they already simplify it and removing core gameplay parts of its identity. I feel like I am dropped in Bizarroland where nothing makes sense anymore.
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    RIP Viper 28/06/2024 - 30/07/2024. It was a fun month.

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    Camulos Kellesha
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    Quote Originally Posted by ovIm View Post
    It's maddening. A few months ago Yoshi-P said that they were done with oversimplifications, and now, about a month after Viper was released, they already simplify it and removing core gameplay parts of its identity. I feel like I am dropped in Bizarroland where nothing makes sense anymore.
    I believe these statements were probably made when job design for DT was already locked in and unable to be course corrected. That's the general feeling I had when he made those comments: this feels too late in the development cycle to be reflective of the experience we'll have in Dawntrail.

    Edit: Completely unrelated, I love your miqo's aesthetic, Dax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ovIm View Post
    It's maddening. A few months ago Yoshi-P said that they were done with oversimplifications, and now, about a month after Viper was released, they already simplify it and removing core gameplay parts of its identity. I feel like I am dropped in Bizarroland where nothing makes sense anymore.
    The conversation you linked straight-up says it's talking about "7.2 and beyond", not 7.0 at the start.

    I'm sorry, and this is going to come off rude.

    Stop destroying the fun of others because the absolute bottom tier players can't figure out how to hit the glowing buttons.
    Vote with your wallet. I could just as easily say stop destroying the fun of many of your typical gamers today because you want the one MMO that designs itself for them to change, when you have a variety of other games you could choose instead to get the "challenge" or "complexity" you desire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    The conversation you linked straight-up says it's talking about "7.2 and beyond", not 7.0 at the start.
    This article has some mistranslations in it. When speaking of 7.2, he spoke specifically about gameplay content, which would come before any big rework to existing classes.
    That however is not the criticism here - its that Yoshi-P acknowledges that they have gone too far oversimplifying classes, and wanted to do less of that. Only for whoever is responsible to do exactly that with such a knee-jerk gameplay nerf that I fear I am getting whiplash.
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    RIP Viper 28/06/2024 - 30/07/2024. It was a fun month.