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  1. #61
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    AngaratoSvartberg's Avatar
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    Angarato Svartberg
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Colt47 View Post
    I'm okay with the changes. Well, at least melee has it's summoner now.

    EDIT:

    Tried it on target dummy and oh god its freaking dragoon endless combo bullshit again. They should have just increased the noxious gnash and other buffs to 30 seconds instead of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
    if they increased the duration it would be just as braindead as this. if not even more.
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  2. #62
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    Magikazam's Avatar
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    Omori Oatmeal
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    Malboro
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    Summoner Lv 91
    Can't wait for next patch where they just put your whole rotation on a single button.
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  3. #63
    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Magikazam View Post
    Can't wait for next patch where they just put your whole rotation on a single button.
    That's just a healer.
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  4. #64
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    Jumpshot Tryhard
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    The change just means the forum is a loud minority
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  5. #65
    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Eastwall View Post
    The change just means the forum is a loud minority
    When you find me a single player that:

    A. Has even the slightest amount of skill
    B. Actually agrees with these changes

    I'll believe you. Until then, literally everyone I know agrees that this is yet another garbage SE change, catering to the braindead.
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  6. #66
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    Araxes's Avatar
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    Runic Raven
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    Zodiark
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    Blacksmith Lv 100
    I did not see any feedback that Viper is to hard, quite the opposite that it is good as it is.

    Was this Feedback from the Japanese Forums? Cause if it came from the English ones i must have missed it.
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  7. #67
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    Colt47's Avatar
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    Kan Himaa
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    That's just a healer.
    When a development team builds jobs specifically using feedback from people doing higher end content instead of changing the higher end content to allow for better job designs. But this was the direction they decided to go after Stormblood so I guess we are all screwed.
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  8. #68
    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colt47 View Post
    When a development team builds jobs specifically using feedback from people doing higher end content instead of changing the higher end content to allow for better job designs. But this was the direction they decided to go after Stormblood so I guess we are all screwed.
    I assure you, none of these changes were requested from anyone capable of doing high end content.
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  10. #69
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    Mutsukki Aensland
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    Sargatanas
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Colt47 View Post
    When a development team builds jobs specifically using feedback from people doing higher end content instead of changing the higher end content to allow for better job designs. But this was the direction they decided to go after Stormblood so I guess we are all screwed.
    it has not been a single savage tier before they made the changes what are you talking about
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  11. #70
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    Meera Farzaneh
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    Behemoth
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    Monk Lv 90
    At this rate I do not have a lot of faith on them delivering on a job redesign / making jobs interesting or what not in 8.0. The idea of "making jobs simple and fights complex" has many issues because:
    - Simple jobs really show when fights aren't complex or well done, which means the onus is on making every fight interesting. A complex job can reduce the disappointment from an uninteresting fight and the inverse is true as seen with many fights from last expansion (P1S, P6S, P11S, Rubicante, etc).
    - All of the content from before that was designed with more complex jobs is now much more boring / less challenging, though I would say this mostly applies to ultimates since not many people are doing savages synced.
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