Giving feedback in this game is pointless (Viper changes)

[PangTong]

When they announced changes to simplify Viper these forums were flooded with posts saying to leave it alone. They went ahead and dumbed it down anyway. Viper didn't even get to go a single damn patch before getting dumbed down.

I liked managing the debuff timer. I was having such a good time with the job, it was my new favourite after they removed timer management from Monk. Then they just gave it the same treatment anyway.

Why does anyone even bother giving feedback anymore? It just gets ignored and they do what they were going to do anyway. Can't have anything fun in this game without it getting "fixed". I'm so sick of this.

[LemonInYourEyes]

These viper changes are the closest I've ever come to a kneejerk un-sub reaction. It's absolutely braindead now and I hate it.

IDK why SE insists on making knee-jerk reaction changes to a job that's been out a month. It was the most fun I've had playing a DPS and now most of what I loved about it is gone.

[Sani2341]

Welcome to the "ignored by SE" experience. You'll find the healers in the back with their picket line.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I mean, the changes fit the rest of vipers playstyle.

NG was basically auto-refreshed anyway. Plus it was just carbon copy rpr mechanic.

[ovIm]

I mean, the changes fit the rest of vipers playstyle.

NG was basically auto-refreshed anyway. Plus it was just carbon copy rpr mechanic.

You want timer management play blm.

No, it was not. You were actively monitoring NG to decide whether to use Dread or Steel Fangs, which made the combo starter more dynamic, and made you reference it with your Dreadwinder. To me, it was an actual fun engaging mechanic that helped keep my brain engaged in the class and the fight.

Square Enix has no faith in their product, thats for sure. Remember when they told MCH's that they were playing it wrong, back in Heavensward? I kinda wish that mentality came back slightly. Now, all SqEx does is remove any possible friction for a class.

[Doopliss]

NG was basically auto-refreshed anyway. Plus it was just carbon copy rpr mechanic.

Just keep removing flavor until there is no flavor. That's worked out well for them. It doesn't matter if it was "essentially" the same as Death's Design, it still brought a specific flow to Viper that people enjoyed. Genuinely who was saying Viper was too hard? I haven't seen anyone mention it in either the JP or ENG forums.

Why are jobs barely allowed to have timers anymore, besides? They removed them from Monk, too...

[Amh_Wilzuun]

Absolutely terrible Viper change. Makes it homogenous with Monk and Ninja and removes any sort of thought needed for the rotation. The burst phase is completely brain dead now, just press the blue buttons every 2 minutes. LISTEN TO OUR FREAKING FEEDBACK.

[Garnix]

Probably would have been better to go with the initial plan and remove positionals.

[TheDustyOne]

What the hell Square?

Great, you listened about the positionals, but then you blindside us with this nonsense instead. Who asked for this? I certainly didn't, no one I know asked for this, the forums at large said nothing about this, instead asking for the overall flow to remain unchanged.

So again; what the hell? "Managing of its combo routes" it's literally press the glowing button, there was nothing to manage. The only thing the combos really asked of you was "do you reapply Noxious yet or do the bigger damage button?" and instead it was replaced with another "press the glowing button".

The job is barely a month old and Square thought we were having too much fun apparently. I don't have the desire to level it beyond what I've already got it at if this is how Square is going to treat it. Why bother learning it when they'll just gut it.

[ovIm]

The job is barely a month old and Square thought we were having too much fun apparently.

Damn I hate how good this describes the situation. The job is not barely month old, people were having fun, and that goes against everything CBU3 stands for, apparently.