Quote Originally Posted by Geinonen View Post
Hello, I finally had to reach the feedback forum of FFXIV after 12 years of playing, for viper changes. Having waited for multiple weeks/months before doing this, I have to vent.
The viper changes took away the core identity of Viper class to me. The same points have been made time and time again about lost identity, so as person above me said:

The problem isnt "Nobody cared about the debuff/Its the same rotation anyways, why do you care", the problem is that you could do more with the debuff rotation. For example, dodging using combo starter 2 to apply the debuff, as it had less potency, or target switching like in Valigarmanda spikes. Do I have combo starter primed? Should I save a dreadwinder? These choices on top of the burst window considerations were very engaging for the class identity. Right now it's just "Press flashing button for mediocre damage potency buttons" which is very underwhelming gameplay. Burst window is very set in stone now with no planning. Two reawakenings or go home.

Even from casual viewpoint, you can just press the flashing buttons even before the changes. After the changes, it is your only choice.
You're right, homie. It feels like a lvl 86 job right now but that isn't to say NG made it feel like a 100 job either, but I still loved that gameplay. I understand the idea that every role should have a "beginner" job, but I don't think a job that unlocks at lvl 80 fits the criteria for a beginner job. "Good job, you've played the game for 234 hours, now you've unlocked the beginner melee job." Make it make sense lol