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    Quote Originally Posted by No_Nick_Needed View Post
    Speaking of the Miqo'te and moon; It's a pretty funny conincidence that the Moon Miqo'te are called Keepers, when both moons were prisons, one for Bahamut and the other for Zodiark. Unless of course that bit was planned from the very start of 1.0 and it was intentional.
    It almost sounds like the Keepers of the Moon were once involved with guarding either Bahamut's or Zodiark's prison.

    Anyway, in the Endwalker Alliance Raids we learn that the followers fo the Twelve acknowledged Dalamud so much, that their prayers made Menphina spawn an entire giant wolf from that believe, so yeah, it would make sense for other cultures over on Tural or Orthand to have some similar myths too.
    Maybe we'll get that once we go to Merasidia, however many expansion in the future.
    Yeah! I think any hint of lore like that would be fascinating! Even if it was brought up only to deny connections.
    (And answer some of my own questions of identity crisis as a Moon Miqo'te, myself)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    So perhaps the reason the Azim Steppe doesn't talk about Dalamud is because they didn't really think of Dalamud as a moon. It was on a scientific definitional level
    "That's no moon, it's a space station."

    I'd be hesitant to describe Dalamud in our modern scientific terms as a moon because of its completely artificial origin which removes the "natural" qualification from "natural satellite" and because it didn't orbit Etheirys directly anyway, it was described as being in orbit around the moon instead and as proof they were always together in the sky which would not happen if they both independently orbited the planet. While some might say the moon itself is artificial due to its origins, it's at least made of natural materials and indistinguishable from a naturally-made moon except for the prison holding a god.

    In-universe the designation doesn't really matter much since (like other languages such as Japanese), they call the planet itself a "star" so designations of objects in space seem to be more vague than modern English's. Dalamud likely got its classification as a moon because it's slightly bigger than the other stars and is right next to the actual real moon. The description of the Dalamiq from the 51 tribes is the only reference I can think of using the term "lesser-moon" outside of Eorzea but the source seems to be written from an Eorzean perspective.


    Quote Originally Posted by No_Nick_Needed View Post
    Speaking of the Miqo'te and moon; It's a pretty funny conincidence that the Moon Miqo'te are called Keepers, when both moons were prisons, one for Bahamut and the other for Zodiark. Unless of course that bit was planned from the very start of 1.0 and it was intentional.
    It almost sounds like the Keepers of the Moon were once involved with guarding either Bahamut's or Zodiark's prison.
    1.0 didn't have Zodiark so it's probably a coincidence than anything else and the name "keepers" was likely chosen more to be similar with "seekers" than any actual possible hidden meanings.

    From what I remember of interviews back then, Yoshi-P took Dalamud being more than meets the eye and containing Bahamut from a planned plot point in Tanaka's 1.0, but it wasn't originally supposed to fall to Eorzea and that was an excuse to blow up the world and start over. I don't think Zodiark had anything to do with the moon at all though until HW or SB since before that the Ascians gathered around the "Fathercrystal" with the large Zodiark statue or even that one time in a freaking dungeon in otherwise nondescript locations that did not evoke any idea of the moon at all.

    The thing that moon Miqos need to be truly worried about for in regards to identity crises is one I've wondered about since 1.0 and to my knowledge has never been explained:
    Why did a race of people who worship the moon above all things and who want to bathe in its light decide to live in a place that is specifically described as having the light of the sun and the moon completely blotted out by the extremely thick canopy of leaves to the point where outsiders refer to it as "the Black Shroud"?
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    Last edited by MikkoAkure; 08-02-2024 at 09:13 PM.

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