#WukLamatMustDie

[Shibi]

...Wanting a character to die because you dislike her. That's sadistic...

How many NPCs has your WOL actually killed since level 1?

Edit: You know that one garlean, in old Prae around about the first lift that everyone missed. The garlean soldier minding his own business that many people went out of their way to murder on the full-clear? Did you ever off him too? He had a pixel wife and pixel family too you know. I will always remember him, and he will live on.

Edit 2: Thank you Midari for the link on the next page, XD

[Antharaes]

Don't change the subject.

This was what my grandson was howling about...he still has the giggles.

[Midare]

Edit: You know that one garlean, in old Prae around about the first lift that everyone missed. The garlean soldier minding his own business that many people went out of their way to murder on the full-clear? Did you ever off him too? He had a pixel wife and pixel family too you know. I will always remember him, and he will live on.

The pixels, they remember.

They ALL remember.

[Ronivan]

Lets us make a narrative comparison to another girl we met just recently, which is Zero. The narrative related to Zero was perfectly done, the introduction, the pace, the development of her character and the culmination at the end of her story line was perfect. She completed the Hero's Journey, learned not only from we player but from everyone else, not only the scions. She grew and become something much more than what she was, and at the end, she saw us, the player, as an equal. I absolutely loved her for everything she was, I myself, the real person could relate to her.

Now let us take Wuk Lamat. Her character never develops much more than what was presented to us at the beginning. She don't follow the hero's journey, she is already a hero and leads everything, the very typical Mary Sue in all aspects. The narrative took away the agency from us, the player, and gave it to her. We just happen to be there to watch her. At the end of her journey I did not want to relate to her; I felt so unimportant and absent from almost all aspects of the MSQ. I was just there, nothing else.

Not only her character development is messed, almost all characters are. Try to compare this expansion to all others and you will notice how bizarre the narrative is, how untypical of Square Enix FF14 development team it is. I just wonder what game consultant company they have hired to ''fix'' the story for the ''modern audiences''. We see the same very thing, the same very contamination in many other games out there that were good. Just see how divisive this MSQ was in the community. People knows there is something really wrong with it, no matter how much cope the others have.

At the end of the day, this is just a game; but also its my money and my time, which I have invested here in the last 10 years. It was no wasted, from 2.0 to 6.0 it was amazing, but if 7.0 on wards will be like this, I better use my money and my time somewhere else. I believe you all should be mindful of that.

[Hesitate89]

Friendly nature of Wuk Lamat derives from Convocation of 14, she was one of them in past life, much like AMON, Fandaniel. Deudalalpon's Title is The Benevolent, Friendly Nature, even the name Deude/laphon if you break it down means in a way, resolve.

We are helping one of our own as Former Azem, helping Wuk Lamat as Former Deudelaphon find themselves. They are the Scion of Light. Duedelaphon quote in constellation capri-corn: May all know happiness, now and forevermore.

Wuk Lamat is our Elidibus, but more Ulkuhai, they share same color crystal almost. This ties in with Altima/Ultima and Duedelaphon mask being on Gaius Belt, the Former ARR Boss who defeated those 2 Ascians.

While in ARR we dealt with ULTIMA Weapon.
in DT we will most likely go up against ALTIMA, Ascian or Esper Ultima. Both Games rhyme as fresh beginning.

Constellation Quote for Altima goes in line with the Raid Series as well. in regard to Souls.

The Theme of Dawntrail is Wings, and Time. Deudelaphon is Capricorn, Diety of Althmyk, God of Time, and Altima has Wings, The High Seraph.

Consdering we are going to do SPACE TRAVELING, best prepare to deal and refresh yourselves with Astrologian Lore.

We didn't hear anything about Deudelaphon until patch 6.2 in Ascian Codex, interesting don't you think?

[Sivante]

Friendly nature of Wuk Lamat derives from Convocation of 14, she was one of them in past life, much like AMON, Fandaniel. Deudalalpon's Title is The Benevolent, Friendly Nature, even the name Deude/laphon if you break it down means in a way, resolve.

We are helping one of our own as Former Azem, helping Wuk Lamat as Former Deudelaphon find themselves. They are the Scion of Light. Duedelaphon quote in constellation capri-corn: May all know happiness, now and forevermore.

Wuk Lamat is our Elidibus, but more Ulkuhai, they share same color crystal almost. This ties in with Altima/Ultima and Duedelaphon mask being on Gaius Belt, the Former ARR Boss who defeated those 2 Ascians.

While in ARR we dealt with ULTIMA Weapon.
in DT we will most likely go up against ALTIMA, Ascian or Esper Ultima. Both Games rhyme as fresh beginning.

Constellation Quote for Altima goes in line with the Raid Series as well. in regard to Souls.

The Theme of Dawntrail is Wings, and Time. Deudelaphon is Capricorn, Diety of Althmyk, God of Time, and Altima has Wings, The High Seraph.

Consdering we are going to do SPACE TRAVELING, best prepare to deal and refresh yourselves with Astrologian Lore.

We didn't hear anything about Deudelaphon until patch 6.2 in Ascian Codex, interesting don't you think?

Fascinating idea, but... didn't Gaius "kill" (reset) Deudelaphon well after Wuk-Lamat was already born? It's not as though Deudelaphon had time to reincarnate or sunder out into Wuk-Lamat, assuming Gaius killed them improperly. How does your theory work around that?

[Connor]

Wish granted.
Wuk Lamat dies.
And is reborn as a Goddess, come once again to spread love and friendship to all corners of the world. She will remain Dawnservant for eternity.

[Hesitate89]

It's implied but ascians are hard to kill, i don't think Gaius had Aurcite to pull it off like with did previous ascians, he may have temporarily vanquished them and claimed their mask, as they aren't seen since.

In regards to timeline, we witness 30 years past in flash of eye with Alexandria showing up in Shalooni, since the first discovery of the Golden City with G. Jaja and Crew discovering it, 80~20 years past in DT continent, from the gate opening, variation of years past on the 1st, while only weeks past on source, merging of worlds with use of Cup with Azem power may have bridged timelines, I believe the future/alt timeline we came from going to 1st, to save the source may be intervening, you mess with time, time tends to mess back in way.

[Sivante]

It's implied but ascians are hard to kill, i don't think Gaius had Aurcite to pull it off like with did previous ascians, he may have temporarily vanquished them and claimed their mask, as they aren't seen since.

In regards to timeline, we witness 30 years past in flash of eye with Alexandria showing up in Shalooni, since the first discovery of the Golden City with G. Jaja and Crew discovering it, 80~20 years past in DT continent, from the gate opening, variation of years past on the 1st, while only weeks past on source, merging of worlds with use of Cup with Azem power may have bridged timelines, I believe the future/alt timeline we came from going to 1st, to save the source may be intervening, you mess with time, time tends to mess back in way.

This is going to come across as sass but I really don't mean it:

Your theory depends upon time being wibbly wobbly, merging worlds, the artifact being the cup of azem, and us interacting with this world from an outside fixed point in time?

I find it simpler to think we've consistently seen the past anyway (the Echo), and that the timeline hasn't been breached in such a fashion as yet. What evidence do we have that the timeline could be damaged in such a fashion? Wuk Lamat is definitively from 20~ years ago and everyone in this area knows and confirms similar, so the entire landscape region would have to be out of time: We know we aren't out of time, as the dragons from Radz-At-han showed up with no issue. Even if the land itself is outside of static time (For reasons?) that would conflict with Kriles storyline.

I'm not sure I'm understanding the logic here?

[Midare]

Wish granted.
Wuk Lamat dies.
And is reborn as a Goddess, come once again to spread love and friendship to all corners of the world. She will remain Dawnservant for eternity.

I mean... we did kill the Twelve...

So, there's still hope.