#WukLamatMustDie

[Shibi]

[Verathel]

Sideline her or she needs god tier writing in 7.1.

[Aurumis]

The fictional character it's bad. The fictional character needs to be put in the corners of forever forgotten characters.

I really hope she disappears forever from the MSQ and that are rewritting all the patches, I don't care if it's not voiced, If they remove her, I'm all for it.

[ViaDesperare]

Been awhile, but interestingly this thread did reach the JP audience somewhat, 2chblog at least, so they know that we don't like Wuk Lamat. Interestingly, one of the posts said something about how YoshiP would tell them that what's being done for the game is popular in the west, which it isn't atm. They didn't know about the stuff we gathered as well, so the amount of quest objective Wuk had. I don't think anyone has used the resource section, but tbf most people straight up ignore the first post and just read the title and then come into the thread to complain, which outs out their stupidity at least. JP doesn't know about Wuk's word/line count.

Basically, many dislike her and we dislike her on both side while [YoshiP], actually SQX(?), is gaslighting us that the other likes xyz. No one knows where YoshiP is getting his information from. Then there's issues about JP foreigner problem and I think that had a relation to expansion, but idk because google translate could only translate so much.

If you know how to contact JP side about any problem our side has and try to compare it to their problem, and then work together to push that information out to make news, then that's a good direction to head towards. ATM, since YoshiP is staying silent, and lying to both side that the other side enjoys the game as x y z, nothing will be changed or fixed. There's obviously something really funky going on but no one has clear evidence to what it is. [Ignore this]YoshiP being like an activist advocator for the JP side is interesting.[new stuff] Turns out it's SQX based on Voidmages translation.

Anyways, as long as people are there to voice their dislike of Wuk Lamat then it will be heard. We have youtube videos, the score keeps dropping on Metacritic and Steam (58% Steam/62 Meta). The longer YoshiP stays silent, the angrier people will get. Will anything change? IDK.

Controversey Points to remember for the next Live Letter or YoshiP event:
- Use the VA to apologize, to garner sympathy from the fans, but don't have the writer/producer apologize themselves.
- Lie to player base about prerelease information, such as importance of characters or plot points.

Y'know, lots comparing the two a lot of stuff is so similar. The game might really be heading towards the Rose/Alisha controversy route with Wuk being Rose and Krile being Alisha.

[Amecoeur]

Sideline her or she needs god tier writing in 7.1.

No, please just let her go. Most of the things in this forum has been about her lately. The VA isn't having a good time either.

[Raven2014]

Been awhile, but interestingly this thread did reach the JP audience somewhat, 2chblog at least, so they know that we don't like Wuk Lamat. Interestingly, one of the posts said something about how YoshiP would tell them that what's being done for the game is popular in the west, which it isn't atm. They didn't know about the stuff we gathered as well, so the amount of quest objective Wuk had. I don't think anyone has used the resource section, but tbf most people straight up ignore the first post and just read the title and then come into the thread to complain, which outs out their stupidity at least. JP doesn't know about Wuk's word/line count.

Basically, many dislike her and we dislike her on both side while YoshiP is gaslighting us that the other likes xyz. No one knows where YoshiP is getting his information from. Then there's issues about JP foreigner problem and I think that had a relation to expansion, but idk because google translate could only translate so much.

Unless you can find a source for where and when YoshiP had said it, I will treat it with a grain of salt and nothing more. What I know for a fact is that BOTH community have a terminal case of the "grass is greener on the other side" mentality as well as a good dose of victimhood, the JP community believe they're suffered to Western pandering as much as the English forum believe SE only listen to JP.

So again, unless there is citation, I will treat this as just another lie.

[Alchemii]

Been awhile, but interestingly this thread did reach the JP audience somewhat, 2chblog at least, so they know that we don't like Wuk Lamat. Interestingly, one of the posts said something about how YoshiP would tell them that what's being done for the game is popular in the west, which it isn't atm. They didn't know about the stuff we gathered as well, so the amount of quest objective Wuk had. I don't think anyone has used the resource section, but tbf most people straight up ignore the first post and just read the title and then come into the thread to complain, which outs out their stupidity at least. JP doesn't know about Wuk's word/line count.

Basically, many dislike her and we dislike her on both side while YoshiP is gaslighting us that the other likes xyz. No one knows where YoshiP is getting his information from. Then there's issues about JP foreigner problem and I think that had a relation to expansion, but idk because google translate could only translate so much.

If you know how to contact JP side about any problem our side has and try to compare it to their problem, and then work together to push that information out to make news, then that's a good direction to head towards. ATM, since YoshiP is staying silent, and lying to both side that the other side enjoys the game as x y z, nothing will be changed or fixed. There's obviously something really funky going on but no one has clear evidence to what it is. YoshiP being like an activist advocator for the JP side is interesting.

Anyways, as long as people are there to voice their dislike of Wuk Lamat then it will be heard. We have youtube videos, the score keeps dropping on Metacritic and Steam (58% Steam/62 Meta). The longer YoshiP stays silent, the angrier people will get. Will anything change? IDK.

Controversey Points to remember for the next Live Letter or YoshiP event:
- Use the VA to apologize, to garner sympathy from the fans, but don't have the writer/producer apologize themselves.
- Lie to player base about prerelease information, such as importance of characters or plot points.

Y'know, lots comparing the two a lot of stuff is so similar. The game might really be heading towards the Rose/Alisha controversy route with Wuk being Rose and Krile being Alisha.

I'm hoping for "ARR 2: Electrope Boogaloo" where we wipe out the entire place except the District 9 and the Alexandra zones. Then have them work with Garlmald and Sharlayan to find out that they don't need to harness souls for power.

[MalakRevan]

7.1 msq should start like that scene in Office Space where they're smashing the printer but its wol and the scions beating Wuk Lamat to death.

[Voidmage]

They didn't know about the stuff we gathered as well, so the amount of quest objective Wuk had. I don't think anyone has used the resource section, but tbf most people straight up ignore the first post and just read the title and then come into the thread to complain, which outs out their stupidity at least. JP doesn't know about Wuk's word/line count.

They actually do know these things.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...%81%A6/page101
Page 101 in the Japanese forum has this one:

“Also, I looked at a certain user's statistics on the number of comments made by characters in 7.0, and even though Urianger had been there from the beginning, he had very few comments, and I guess it's because other writers couldn't reproduce those difficult phrases, which made me kind of sad...”
(Had to quote like that because otherwise it would just have been in Japanese)

They are really just talking about the same things as here with the same opinion more or less.
Minus the whole uh… VA “topic”.
I actually have never seen the opinions between the two language sides so unison.

On your other topic:
Do you have a 2chan link? Would be interesting for me to read.

I take the YoshiP argument with a grain of salt without citations. The japanese can be pretty quick with blaming overseas and vice versa.
I wouldn’t say though that it’s impossible for him or others to do that but I don’t think so personally.

Honestly it will be interesting in the near future how they will handle that huge feedback and I am glad the Japanese side seems to also think like here this time at last from what I saw.

[ViaDesperare]

Unless you can find a source for where and when YoshiP had said it, I will treat it with a grain of salt and nothing more.

That's the best way to do it. I'm just giving a second hand account on a bad google translation. I don't know of anyone contacting JP people, so IDK how we get news out of them.

They actually do know these things.
On your other topic:
Do you have a 2chan link? Would be interesting for me to read.

Love ya for more info, and sorry about not being able to get the source on the YoshiP thing. Most of the items I gathered are from this site 2chblog.
I think the translation is better if you grab the text and paste it into google translate instead of using on page translation, but I don't read japanese so thats how I got my info. IDK how to navigate 2chblog as well so yeah, sorry if there's any misinformation.

I did learn that grass is how they laugh, so grass when translated and www.

I was just tracking the hashtag, which gave 5ch and 2ch related stuff.