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  1. #231
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kozh View Post
    Pretty sure the main character of DT is Wuk Lamat

    Also how is a character popularity poll isn't relevant when it comes to whether or not a character is well liked by the community? It's literally about it lol
    It wasn't with previous expansions either, the wrong guys and gals topped the charts, and that is how it is.
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  2. #232
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    Wuk though is very Japanese, a fact a western person like you, wont be able to grasp, as stuck in some kind of mainstream thing.

    This game is a Japanese game first of all, and most of all that is the target audience, it is not like them Marvel Heroes or whatever.
    I think you missed the fact that most people won't even played FF14 if they hate JRPG?

    If anything, Wuk Lamat has more similarity with the hot garbage Mary Sue coming from Disney in recent years than the traditional FF14 character we've been getting in the last decades.
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  3. #233
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    I think you missed the fact that most people won't even played FF14 if they hate JRPG?

    If anything, Wuk Lamat has more similarity with the hot garbage Mary Sue coming from Disney in recent years than the traditional FF14 character we've been getting in the last decades.
    Here is some facts alot of people play FFXIV and not liking the typical jRPG thing you speak of and like other sides of the game instead.

    FFXIV is a huge game as it is, so that is pointless as well to throw out, if you play ONLY for the MSQ, then find another game, you would be better satisfied with a singleplayer game if the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    Here is some facts alot of people play FFXIV and not liking the typical jRPG thing you speak of and like other sides of the game instead.

    FFXIV is a huge game as it is, so that is pointless as well to throw out, if you play ONLY for the MSQ, then find another game, you would be better satisfied with a singleplayer game if the case.
    The MSQ is the main attraction of the game. It was always sold as "an RPG first and an MMO second".
    The MSQ in mandatory if you don't want to pay, and enormous prerequisite to attain endgame. The raid can even be see as part of the MSQ with all the story inside.
    That's why now 90% of the game can be done solo.

    You are just basically saying to a vast part of the playerbase "go play somthing else". Good for you, but I'm not sure FFXIV will survive a long time (or will still have the budget it has) with only what remain after this purge.
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  5. #235
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    You can't really base it because whatever number on the list, whenever it get to it, it is not the point about anything and rather irrelevant as well.

    The main character in FFXIV is you the player.
    The poll was just the biggest example of proof. There was a bunch of stuff gathered from the forums and other social media where JP players said even more angry things than we have. It was actually a delight to read. They got very colorful and creative with it.
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  6. #236
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    I think its insane to come to a thread about wanting a character to go away forever in any way, and assume we are the ones sending death threats to the VA... I feel like I cant complain about the game I love without being lumped in with degenerates who go around complaining about trans or woke. The voice acting was the actual least of my problems with Dawntrail, I do not care at all about who voiced her, I don't care about the JP or DE version, I just don't like the character, so please for all that is good, stop lumping everyone who doesn't like the character into the "tranphobic toxic degenerate" umbrella please!
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  7. #237
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    Here is some facts alot of people play FFXIV and not liking the typical jRPG thing you speak of and like other sides of the game instead.

    FFXIV is a huge game as it is, so that is pointless as well to throw out, if you play ONLY for the MSQ, then find another game, you would be better satisfied with a singleplayer game if the case.
    The heck any of that have anything to do with what I said even? What's the point of quoting someone if you just throw out random lines?

    Also FYI, I probably play 80%-90% of what FF14 has to offer (the 10%-20% are probably criterion and fishing related gameplay), doesn't mean I can't point out the 15%-25% that sucks. What constitute that piece varies from time to time, and for DT it's the MSQ.

    Just like I probably played 2/3 of JRPG released on the market, and I will also point out some of them sucks.

    If I order a meal with 5 dishes, it's normal to praise the good and criticize the bad. I'm not gonna throw out the entire tray because the fries isn't cook right, just like I won't just accept that with no criticism.

    Try to learn how to think on a spectrum instead of only the extremes, it's an important life skill that's worth cultivating.
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    Last edited by Raven2014; 08-04-2024 at 01:07 AM.

  8. #238
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zackneifein View Post
    The MSQ is the main attraction of the game. It was always sold as "an RPG first and an MMO second".
    The MSQ in mandatory if you don't want to pay, and enormous prerequisite to attain endgame. The raid can even be see as part of the MSQ with all the story inside.
    That's why now 90% of the game can be done solo.

    You are just basically saying to a vast part of the playerbase "go play somthing else". Good for you, but I'm not sure FFXIV will survive a long time (or will still have the budget it has) with only what remain after this purge.
    MMORPG is mostly what is next to it, MSQ is minor in comparison, else you would just stay subscribed when there is an expansion and at every major patch.
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  9. #239
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ketojan View Post
    I think its insane to come to a thread about wanting a character to go away forever in any way, and assume we are the ones sending death threats to the VA... I feel like I cant complain about the game I love without being lumped in with degenerates who go around complaining about trans or woke. The voice acting was the actual least of my problems with Dawntrail, I do not care at all about who voiced her, I don't care about the JP or DE version, I just don't like the character, so please for all that is good, stop lumping everyone who doesn't like the character into the "tranphobic toxic degenerate" umbrella please!
    I have bad news for you. Some people will find any chance to turn any shred of criticism for a reason to toss labels.

    The best you can do it's say what you want to say about the character and ignore the labeling. What matters is that your conscious remains clean, words said by strangers on the internet mean absolutely nothing.
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  10. #240
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    The heck any of that have anything to do with what I said even? What's the point of quoting someone if you just throw out random lines?

    Also FYI, I probably play 80%-90% of what FF14 has to offer (the 10%-20% are probably criterion and fishing related gameplay), doesn't mean I can't point out the 15%-25% that sucks. What constitute that piece varies from time to time, and for DT it's the MSQ.

    Just like I probably played 2/3 of JRPG released on the market, and I will also point out some of them sucks.

    If I order a meal with 5 dishes, it's normal to praise the good and criticize the bad. I'm not gonna throw out the entire tray because the fries isn't cook right, just like I won't just accept that with no criticism.

    Try to learn how to think on a spectrum instead of only the extremes, it's an important life skill that's worth cultivating.
    It is rubbles, if you truely play FFXIV, then it is most of all not for the MSQ, the MSQ through all expansions has and still got huge quirks.... the expansions is most of all the next 10 levels and better gear due to higher ilevel.
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