#WukLamatMustDie

[Superasil]

Dumb and cringe. At this point it's just a meme to hate on her.



If you don't like Wuk Lamat you either:

Are playing withe the EN voices (why??) (I'll be honest, I truly believe that if everyone were forced to play on JP voices they'd have a much higher opinion of her).



or


Don't like JRPGs in general.


Wuk is not a bad character. She is typical enough of most JP games in that she's a sprightly, upbeat, cheerful and positive cute tomboy. The only good point that was in the original post was that yes, sometimes our friends focus a bit too much on Wuk (the example with y'shtola calling Wuk instead of us was a good one). After a decade of entirety focus on us, it's not a bad thing for us to take a slightly more backseat to another character, where we acted closer to a mentor than a fully main character.

[Coratanni]

Dumb and cringe. At this point it's just a meme to hate on her.



If you don't like Wuk Lamat you either:

Are playing withe the EN voices (why??) (I'll be honest, I truly believe that if everyone were forced to play on JP voices they'd have a much higher opinion of her).



or


Don't like JRPGs in general.


Wuk is not a bad character. She is typical enough of most JP games in that she's a sprightly, upbeat, cheerful and positive cute tomboy. The only good point that was in the original post was that yes, sometimes our friends focus a bit too much on Wuk (the example with y'shtola calling Wuk instead of us was a good one). After a decade of entirety focus on us, it's not a bad thing for us to take a slightly more backseat to another character, where we acted closer to a mentor than a fully main character.

1) She was forced on us more than any NPC in the history of FF. The English voices only added pee ontop of a poop cake.

2) Been playing JRPG's since the 80's. The vast majority of them don't have you insert her as the leader of a country, nor do they have everyone around her become morons while praising how great and wonderful and perfect she is while all of her solutions are stupid and shouldn't work even by JRPG standards except for the writers needing her to never be wrong.

Here's the real reason. The writing was crap, and her character was crap. /story

[honest_psycho]

... where we acted closer to a mentor than a fully main character.

Blatantly and evidently false, we NEVER did any "mentoring".

The only people who did any kind of mentoring were Thancred and Urianger on Koana at the campfire scene.
OUR group didn't do anything remotely similar to that.

And don't bother writing an essay, I've heard all the arguments already. They dont make any sense.

[Antharaes]

Dumb and cringe. At this point it's just a meme to hate on her.



If you don't like Wuk Lamat you either:

Are playing withe the EN voices (why??) (I'll be honest, I truly believe that if everyone were forced to play on JP voices they'd have a much higher opinion of her).



or


Don't like JRPGs in general.


Wuk is not a bad character. She is typical enough of most JP games in that she's a sprightly, upbeat, cheerful and positive cute tomboy. The only good point that was in the original post was that yes, sometimes our friends focus a bit too much on Wuk (the example with y'shtola calling Wuk instead of us was a good one). After a decade of entirety focus on us, it's not a bad thing for us to take a slightly more backseat to another character, where we acted closer to a mentor than a fully main character.

To counterpart your "uplifting and enlightened" post, Wuk is annoying, shallow and in desperate need of a personality. I listened to Wuk in all languages, doesn't change my opinion about the character. It's still sucks, just with subtitles. And about the WoL being a mentor, a mentor is a teacher, we already know how to nod and we didn't taught her anything. Never was there a teaching moment, we just stood there and nodded. That was it. This expansion had nothing to do with us, it was all about Wuk. Not Krile, nothing of the sort, just that damn orange cringe cat.

[ZXN]

Dumb and cringe. At this point it's just a meme to hate on her.

If you don't like Wuk Lamat you either:

Are playing withe the EN voices (why??) (I'll be honest, I truly believe that if everyone were forced to play on JP voices they'd have a much higher opinion of her).

People hate Wuk in ALL languages, English is just the worse. French voice was fine, and the Japanese and German voices did very well I thought. But no amount of good voice acting is going to make a shit story suddenly great, it just makes it more tolerable to sit through and digest.

Wuk is not a bad character. She is typical enough of most JP games in that she's a sprightly, upbeat, cheerful and positive cute tomboy. The only good point that was in the original post was that yes, sometimes our friends focus a bit too much on Wuk (the example with y'shtola calling Wuk instead of us was a good one). After a decade of entirety focus on us, it's not a bad thing for us to take a slightly more backseat to another character, where we acted closer to a mentor than a fully main character.

Most "typical" JRPG characters would not suggest a village of starving people who are rebuilding and mourning their dead after a devastating storm to throw a fucking festival and be happy, have EVERYONE around her agree that that is a great idea, and then have that festival be the PERFECT ANSWER TO ALL THEIR PROBLEMS. "BuT iT wAs ReDuCeD tO hOlLoW tHeAtEr!!!" Yeah, and whose fault is that? Wuk Evu and the Hanu elder, who KNEW WHAT IHIH'HANA DID THE WHOLE TIME but just decided to keep quiet about it all and just not teach the newer Kozama'uka why it was important to take the festival seriously. But hey, Wuk came up with is so she is a GENIUS right?

And who could've known that all you had to do to end Mamook's centuries long eugenics problem overnight was to just offer them the hand of friendship and some different seeds to plant something besides bananas? Apparently not Gulool Ja Ja! He must've been a fucking IDIOT to not come up with the insanely simple answer to Mamook's issues like Wuk was able to do! Who knew it was just THAT simple?

Also, our character MENTORING her? I genuinely wouldn't have cared if we were a background mentor character, but there was NOTHING there to mentor: Wuk was written to be perfect from the very beginning. If anyone was mentored, it was Koana by Thancred and Urianger, and he was rewarded for it by essentially quitting at the finish line and bending the knee to Wuk and going "You're the only one worth leading our nation" like every other person she has encountered has.

Wuk is a One-dimensional Black Hole Sue of a character that warped everyone and everything around her in order to accommodate her and her alone, and Dawntrail is the writers' fanfiction of said character that got the green light.

[Aurumis]

People hate Wuk in ALL languages, English is just the worse. French voice was fine, and the Japanese and German voices did very well I thought. But no amount of good voice acting is going to make a shit story suddenly great, it just makes it more tolerable to sit through and digest.




Most "typical" JRPG characters would not suggest a village of starving people who are rebuilding and mourning their dead after a devastating storm to throw a fucking festival and be happy, have EVERYONE around her agree that that is a great idea, and then have that festival be the PERFECT ANSWER TO ALL THEIR PROBLEMS. "BuT iT wAs ReDuCeD tO hOlLoW tHeAtEr!!!" Yeah, and whose fault is that? Wuk Evu and the Hanu elder, who KNEW WHAT IHIH'HANA DID THE WHOLE TIME but just decided to keep quiet about it all and just not teach the newer Kozama'uka why it was important to take the festival seriously. But hey, Wuk came up with is so she is a GENIUS right?

And who could've known that all you had to do to end Mamook's centuries long eugenics problem overnight was to just offer them the hand of friendship and some different seeds to plant something besides bananas? Apparently not Gulool Ja Ja! He must've been a fucking IDIOT to not come up with the insanely simple answer to Mamook's issues like Wuk was able to do! Who knew it was just THAT simple?

Also, our character MENTORING her? I genuinely wouldn't have cared if we were a background mentor character, but there was NOTHING there to mentor: Wuk was written to be perfect from the very beginning. If anyone was mentored, it was Koana by Thancred and Urianger, and he was rewarded for it by essentially quitting at the finish line and bending the knee to Wuk and going "You're the only one worth leading our nation" like every other person she has encountered has.

Wuk is a One-dimensional Black Hole Sue of a character that warped everyone and everything around her in order to accommodate her and her alone, and Dawntrail is the writers' fanfiction of said character that got the green light.

Couldn't be said better. Here have your crown.