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    Quote Originally Posted by ViaDesperare View Post
    They didn't know about the stuff we gathered as well, so the amount of quest objective Wuk had. I don't think anyone has used the resource section, but tbf most people straight up ignore the first post and just read the title and then come into the thread to complain, which outs out their stupidity at least. JP doesn't know about Wuk's word/line count.
    They actually do know these things.

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...%81%A6/page101
    Page 101 in the Japanese forum has this one:

    “Also, I looked at a certain user's statistics on the number of comments made by characters in 7.0, and even though Urianger had been there from the beginning, he had very few comments, and I guess it's because other writers couldn't reproduce those difficult phrases, which made me kind of sad...”
    (Had to quote like that because otherwise it would just have been in Japanese)

    They are really just talking about the same things as here with the same opinion more or less.
    Minus the whole uh… VA “topic”.
    I actually have never seen the opinions between the two language sides so unison.

    On your other topic:
    Do you have a 2chan link? Would be interesting for me to read.

    I take the YoshiP argument with a grain of salt without citations. The japanese can be pretty quick with blaming overseas and vice versa.
    I wouldn’t say though that it’s impossible for him or others to do that but I don’t think so personally.

    Honestly it will be interesting in the near future how they will handle that huge feedback and I am glad the Japanese side seems to also think like here this time at last from what I saw.
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    Last edited by Voidmage; 08-12-2024 at 02:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    Unless you can find a source for where and when YoshiP had said it, I will treat it with a grain of salt and nothing more.
    That's the best way to do it. I'm just giving a second hand account on a bad google translation. I don't know of anyone contacting JP people, so IDK how we get news out of them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidmage View Post
    They actually do know these things.
    On your other topic:
    Do you have a 2chan link? Would be interesting for me to read.
    Love ya for more info, and sorry about not being able to get the source on the YoshiP thing. Most of the items I gathered are from this site 2chblog.
    I think the translation is better if you grab the text and paste it into google translate instead of using on page translation, but I don't read japanese so thats how I got my info. IDK how to navigate 2chblog as well so yeah, sorry if there's any misinformation.

    I did learn that grass is how they laugh, so grass when translated and www.

    I was just tracking the hashtag, which gave 5ch and 2ch related stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViaDesperare View Post
    Love ya for more info, and sorry about not being able to get the source on the YoshiP thing. Most of the items I gathered are from this site 2chblog.
    I think the translation is better if you grab the text and paste it into google translate instead of using on page translation, but I don't read japanese so thats how I got my info. IDK how to navigate 2chblog as well so yeah, sorry if there's any misinformation.

    I did learn that grass is how they laugh, so grass when translated and www.

    I was just tracking the hashtag, which gave 5ch and 2ch related stuff.
    Appreciated.
    Yeah the chan boards are quite outdated and annoying to use.

    As far as i can see they find this thread quite amusing and for a change like how direct it is.
    They also seem to be unsure if Yoshida even knows about the feedback.

    Some of the feedback is so unhinged it's quite amusing.
    Examples:

    "Development assumption: Player: "Ukuramato has arrived! Amazing! Awesome!"
    Reality: Player: "Huh?""

    "It's rare to see a character that's hated this much.
    Hats off to the story team. I
    think she'll have to be removed like Minfilia."

    "As expected of a foreigner... He always tells me straight out
    that he doesn't like something. It's crazy that Square Enix's usual "Very popular overseas!" thing doesn't work at all this time lol"

    "Do I have to talk to this creepy creature 139 times every time I raise a sub? I
    'll pay you to let me skip it."

    Other comments are rather... let's call them not nice to foreigners.

    Thanks for the link. It's a fun read.

    Edit:
    I'm surprised that the japanese forum seems to be known as "knighting" the game. Yet even they are quite negative this time.
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    Last edited by Voidmage; 08-12-2024 at 03:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidmage View Post
    Appreciated.
    Yeah the chan boards are quite outdated and annoying to use.

    As far as i can see they find this thread quite amusing and for a change like how direct it is.
    They also seem to be unsure if Yoshida even knows about the feedback.

    Some of the feedback is so unhinged it's quite amusing.
    Examples:

    "Development assumption: Player: "Ukuramato has arrived! Amazing! Awesome!"
    Reality: Player: "Huh?""

    "It's rare to see a character that's hated this much.
    Hats off to the story team. I
    think she'll have to be removed like Minfilia."

    "As expected of a foreigner... He always tells me straight out
    that he doesn't like something. It's crazy that Square Enix's usual "Very popular overseas!" thing doesn't work at all this time lol"

    "Do I have to talk to this creepy creature 139 times every time I raise a sub? I
    'll pay you to let me skip it."

    Other comments are rather... let's call them not nice to foreigners.

    Thanks for the link. It's a fun read.

    Edit:
    I'm surprised that the japanese forum seems to be known as "knighting" the game. Yet even they are quite negative this time.
    Much love mate, I think that Square enix comment might be the comment about YoshiP that I might've flubbed on so I'm going to change that in the original post to correct my mistake. I remember reading a funny post about how a dude used his paid vacation on this game, and I think it was all he got was Wuk Lamat.

    Yeah it's known that JP is not that nice to foreigners, but tbh since we had crappy people over there I would understand why. The people taking picture of the Geishas()? and thus they're now enacting a law or something so foreigners can't go xyz, the Jake Paul incident with the forest of death, and then Jonny Somali antagonizing the people as well. The west has not been conducting themselves well in Japan from what I've seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidmage View Post
    "Do I have to talk to this creepy creature 139 times every time I raise a sub? I
    'll pay you to let me skip it."

    Hence Llamatea is now designated as creature 139.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plumerian_Ariadust View Post
    Hence Llamatea is now designated as creature 139.
    Considering a story skip is $25, when it's available for DT "La Creatura 25" would also be acceptable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViaDesperare View Post
    Most of the items I gathered are from this site 2chblog.
    Thank you. Heh...

    #WukLamatMustDie
    映画のタイトルみたいでカッコいい
    (It sounds cool, like a movie title.)

    I agree, it would be a good movie title.

    ドーントレイルのMSQ目標では、ウク・ラマートと約139回会話することになっていますが、それに比べて、エレンヴィルと48回、クルルと16回、シングルプレイヤーの任務4回、モンスターを17体倒し、ダンジョン/トライアルを9回クリアする必要があります。やばすぎて草
    (In the MSQ objectives for Dawntrail, you're supposed to have about 139 conversations with Llama'ti, compared to 48 with Erinville, 16 with Krile, 4 single-player duties, defeat 17 monsters, and clear 9 dungeons/trials. It's so ridiculous, I can't help but laugh.)

    Comment by me : Hmm, ラマチ ra ma chi is too much like Llama'ti to think otherwise. So, if you are using google translate and urianger pops out, it's llama'ti

    エレンヴィルの約3倍、クルルの約9倍ってすげーな そこまで差があるとは思わなかった. モンスター倒したりダンジョン攻略させたいわけじゃなく、ラマチの攻略をさせたかった…??
    (About 3 times more than Erinville, about 9 times more than Krile - that's amazing. I didn't think there would be such a big difference. They didn't want us to defeat monsters or clear dungeons, but rather to conquer Llama'ti...??)

    We need to teach our Japanese friends to call her poochie, as well! Their opinion really does echo our's doesn't it! Sans the VA firebrand of course. The JP VA is ok, although the French still is best for me in tone, and no I've still not run through in German. Yet.
    (日本の友達にも彼女をプーチーと呼ぶように教える必要がありますね!彼らの意見は本当に私たちの意見と共鳴していますよね!)


    Ah, another echoing us

    ラストの乱入本当に最悪なのがな、ラストバトルくらい素直に頑張らせてくれても良かったのにどこまでもプレイヤーの事考えられてなかったとしか思えない
    (The last instance is really the worst. They could have at least let us earnestly do our best in the final battle. It makes me think they didn't consider the players' feelings at all.)

    お粗末すぎてかっこよくもなんともないのがな…
    (It's so pathetic that it's not even cool or anything...)

    これもう吉田はウが不評なの認知してるよね?それともまだ頭お花畑?
    (At this point, Yoshida must be aware that Wuk is unpopular, right? Or is he still living in a fantasy world?)

    いつも通りイマジナリー海外では人気!と思ってそう
    (As usual, they probably think 'It's popular in the imaginary overseas market!)

    Sorry for my mistakes in the localisation.
    Apologies also for my initial color choice, hurting people was not my intention. Sorry!
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    Last edited by Shibi; 08-14-2024 at 06:43 PM. Reason: 2ちゃんねる、どうもありがとうございます。皆さんの意見が目から鱗です。
    やはり、お前は……笑顔が……イイ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    いつも通りイマジナリー海外では人気!と思ってそう
    (As usual, they probably think 'It's popular in the imaginary overseas market!)
    Man, even JP is tired of games designed for "modern audiences" that don't exist. Good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Sorry for my mistakes in the localisation.
    Don't wanna be nitpicky but the yellow text is actually going nuclear on my eyes. I was curious to see what you have to say about it...maybe another color would be nice <3
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    Apparently it’s rocket science since you are keeping track how many times you talk to her lol
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