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  1. #311
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    Aribeth Lightbringer
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    i kind think it be funny if SE made her the villian at end of this expansion. through they won't want do what sphene did. Lyce was a better character as was Hien it was they backround that made them better then Wuk Lamar

    again i think Wuk Lamar goal aren't good goal. happy of one people can be brought about at expensive of someone else suffering.

    the difference between hien and Lyce is both had rough childhood. hien parents were killed lyce sister died on mission so the desire for those one lead to be safe and security is ingain into them. hien was will give his head for it a leader who care more about sercuty of one people won't go war unless it neccesary or it has because a neighbor is attack you or one your allies

    it also her lack care about the people culture did she learn anything about they culture after she got there or was suffer thought that out as soon as she left. a good leader take what they learn and apply it

    how would i do story first i would make estinen and the WoL travel together to new world i make so WoL watch the competition only get involve when her or his goal alline get see new area get in when it like one someone going cheat also focus have Wuk Lamar prove worth of her or his aid encourage her companions to help her yet will not do so her or himselves. in grand scheme of thing Wuk lamar is same person who start the into competition they wasn't personal growth nor did she get were she was by her own hands. in fact one could argue she carried they by the Sion and WoL
    example of Wuk Lamar:
    lfg to carrier me through a competition will do little work to get there.


    say no doesn't truely mean no for a warrior.
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    Last edited by Savagelf; 08-10-2024 at 03:21 AM.

  2. #312
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViaDesperare View Post
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    We have deduced that Wuk Lamat is a huge problem in the FFXIV story, causing the game to go against the wisdom used to rebuild it. The narrative and gameplay quality of the Dawntrail MSQ has shifted towards the direction that insults the player’s ability and comprehension. Thus, it is that we wish for the character of Wuk Lamat to no longer appear in the future.
    FULLY AGREE ON EVERYTHING you explained in the first post of the thread AND I HOPE DEVS LISTEN.

    That character is THE WORST that has happened to this game. The best decision would be to kill her in the story or just killing her giving her almost NONE lines or scenes again ever in the patches and the next expansions. She is not here, ghost her.
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    I get people may not like her, but this is an extreme. You do realize that there is someone that voices her right?

    You are right to have the opinion to not like what the writers have done with the story, but to call for the death of a character just because of that doesn't sit well with me.

    Make sure we have more that our character can do in the patches to come, yes! Give her the Moanbryda treatment because you don't like her, no.

    For as many people as there are that don't like her, there are those that can appreciate her for what she means to them.

    Pointless death is never a good plot hook. I am not here for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YunBranwen View Post
    I get people may not like her, but this is an extreme. You do realize that there is someone that voices her right?

    You are right to have the opinion to not like what the writers have done with the story, but to call for the death of a character just because of that doesn't sit well with me.
    The person who voices the character is not the character. Learn to separate fiction from reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YunBranwen View Post
    I get people may not like her, but this is an extreme. You do realize that there is someone that voices her right?

    You are right to have the opinion to not like what the writers have done with the story, but to call for the death of a character just because of that doesn't sit well with me.

    Make sure we have more that our character can do in the patches to come, yes! Give her the Moanbryda treatment because you don't like her, no.

    For as many people as there are that don't like her, there are those that can appreciate her for what she means to them.

    Pointless death is never a good plot hook. I am not here for it.
    These are fictional characters and in most media even beloved characters can be on the chopping block. Should no character ever be written out of a show, game, or movie because they have an actor?

    Wuk's death would be like a small apology for what the character put us through this MSQ. Else just push her off to the sidelines like they have done to even characters we like when their role is over.
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    Last edited by ZephyrMenodora; 08-10-2024 at 03:47 AM.

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    I should learn to seperate fiction and reality? People are doxing and sending death threats to her actor and the family? Tell that to them!

    I am not saying that we should like her, and not saying that they should continue the route they are going. Just do things in a way that has meaning to the plot. Scale back and move on from the plot with cameos here and there? SURE! Just axe the character because of bad writing? NO!
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    Quote Originally Posted by YunBranwen View Post
    I should learn to seperate fiction and reality? People are doxing and sending death threats to her actor and the family? Tell that to them!

    I am not saying that we should like her, and not saying that they should continue the route they are going. Just do things in a way that has meaning to the plot. Scale back and move on from the plot with cameos here and there? SURE! Just axe the character because of bad writing? NO!
    How would we do so? The actress has not disclosed their identities and also posted themselves that she doesn't want anyone communicating with them.
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  8. #318
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    i don't mind if they make another what-if ultimate when i can beat the shit out of that supid cat.

    what if sphene convinced wuk lamat to join her side and both of them merged together and become the ultimate endless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YunBranwen View Post
    Scale back and move on from the plot with cameos here and there? SURE! Just axe the character because of bad writing? NO!
    We lost much better characters before.

    I don't want cameos, after having her mentioned even in aether current quests, I want to forget she exists in Eitherys.

    How dare you Hades luring me to Tural and right into Poochie... he will have a very angry tiny Azem punching his shins once she gets to the aetherial sea.

    (And for the record, this is how you separate fiction from reality)
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    Last edited by Midare; 08-10-2024 at 04:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lak14 View Post
    i don't mind if they make another what-if ultimate when i can beat the shit out of that supid cat.

    what if sphene convinced wuk lamat to join her side and both of them merged together and become the ultimate endless.
    That's a decent extreme idea, I think I'd be more amused though to see Sphene just swat her like a fly and return to trying to kill us, maybe we can have a close up of Wuk Lamat's face as she's launched somewhere she can't interfere again from.
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