#WukLamatMustDie

[Zykorberus]

Wuk lamat's trope is not the issue because time and time again it has worked in different lores such as Dragon Ball, Naruto, Chansawman etc. The issue is that it wasn't well written. When such a trope isn't well written then one has nothing left but noticing the trope.

Many have attempted to pinpoint the underlying issue but I think it was the writting of the story and specifically the dialogue. FFXIV has been very deep and philosophical but this time the dialogue was full with very superficial and cardboard-tasting platitudes that seem to be intended for toddlers. So for example: Wuk lamat is supposed to be the leader not just of a nation but an entire continent and she speaks about your happiness is my happiness followed by the "triumphant" music as if that line was something impactful when it wasn't. Compare that to the meeting the Eorzean leaders have with Varis in Stormblood and there is such a contrast in level of maturity. The game is PG 13 but even 13 yr olds dislike being talked down as if they were toddlers.

I think the writers are the ones who took the vacation on this one tbh. They relied too much on the visual and musical aspects and the writting quality was a distant second priority. Peopel say that disliking the story is not liking happy endings but a happy ending can be so without being dull and superficial.

[Wildheaven182]

Not really, MSQ is a ver small part of the game, yes it is supposed to be a spearhead or the likes, but at the end of the day MMORPG's is mostly about players interacting eith each other doing content, and that includes myself, on both the casual side of the game and a bit toward the hardcore side as well to it.

Square enix seems to think otherwose as their reasoning for not doing some story skips is that they say the main attraction of the game is the story and msq.

[Themarvin]

Square enix seems to think otherwose as their reasoning for not doing some story skips is that they say the main attraction of the game is the story and msq.

That is SE, not the Player base.... if there was MSQ only to the game it would be deserted long time ago Final Fantasy or not.

[Savagelf]

First no speech is hate speech see RBG the supreme Court judge. When actress or voice actress or they work isn't be give favorably like they go to I get deaths threat or dox. People don't like her character is said nothing about her. Through going to this I am get this or that does. Her excuse is the girl who cried wolf. This is standard leftist claim ever leftist make they down really people who are get this. This make really victim less likely to come forward every time. Wuk Lamar is bad character

[Savagelf]

Third really victim don't really put it out on public square they go to cop and law enforcement

[Savagelf]

i kind think it be funny if SE made her the villian at end of this expansion. through they won't want do what sphene did. Lyce was a better character as was Hien it was they backround that made them better then Wuk Lamar

again i think Wuk Lamar goal aren't good goal. happy of one people can be brought about at expensive of someone else suffering.

the difference between hien and Lyce is both had rough childhood. hien parents were killed lyce sister died on mission so the desire for those one lead to be safe and security is ingain into them. hien was will give his head for it a leader who care more about sercuty of one people won't go war unless it neccesary or it has because a neighbor is attack you or one your allies

it also her lack care about the people culture did she learn anything about they culture after she got there or was suffer thought that out as soon as she left. a good leader take what they learn and apply it

how would i do story first i would make estinen and the WoL travel together to new world i make so WoL watch the competition only get involve when her or his goal alline get see new area get in when it like one someone going cheat also focus have Wuk Lamar prove worth of her or his aid encourage her companions to help her yet will not do so her or himselves. in grand scheme of thing Wuk lamar is same person who start the into competition they wasn't personal growth nor did she get were she was by her own hands. in fact one could argue she carried they by the Sion and WoL
example of Wuk Lamar:
lfg to carrier me through a competition will do little work to get there.


say no doesn't truely mean no for a warrior.

[Aurumis]

Statement:
We have deduced that Wuk Lamat is a huge problem in the FFXIV story, causing the game to go against the wisdom used to rebuild it. The narrative and gameplay quality of the Dawntrail MSQ has shifted towards the direction that insults the player’s ability and comprehension. Thus, it is that we wish for the character of Wuk Lamat to no longer appear in the future.

FULLY AGREE ON EVERYTHING you explained in the first post of the thread AND I HOPE DEVS LISTEN.

That character is THE WORST that has happened to this game. The best decision would be to kill her in the story or just killing her giving her almost NONE lines or scenes again ever in the patches and the next expansions. She is not here, ghost her.

[YunBranwen]

I should learn to seperate fiction and reality? People are doxing and sending death threats to her actor and the family? Tell that to them!

I am not saying that we should like her, and not saying that they should continue the route they are going. Just do things in a way that has meaning to the plot. Scale back and move on from the plot with cameos here and there? SURE! Just axe the character because of bad writing? NO!

[ZephyrMenodora]

I should learn to seperate fiction and reality? People are doxing and sending death threats to her actor and the family? Tell that to them!

I am not saying that we should like her, and not saying that they should continue the route they are going. Just do things in a way that has meaning to the plot. Scale back and move on from the plot with cameos here and there? SURE! Just axe the character because of bad writing? NO!

How would we do so? The actress has not disclosed their identities and also posted themselves that she doesn't want anyone communicating with them.

[Midare]

Scale back and move on from the plot with cameos here and there? SURE! Just axe the character because of bad writing? NO!

We lost much better characters before.

I don't want cameos, after having her mentioned even in aether current quests, I want to forget she exists in Eitherys.

How dare you Hades luring me to Tural and right into Poochie... he will have a very angry tiny Azem punching his shins once she gets to the aetherial sea.

(And for the record, this is how you separate fiction from reality)