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  1. #221
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracewood View Post
    So... which one of you GAMERS(tm) are responsible for this?:



    Good going, you've turned this game's fandom like every other rabid terminally online gaming fandom. Hope you all are happy. Go ahead and justify and make it about yourself though, totally normal behavior yo.
    >all bc I voiced a Final Fantasy character

    She sure it's just because of that? Not bc (from what I've seen) she's been an insufferable person on twitter?
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  2. #222
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kusanagi7 View Post
    I want to know if it's true or not if it is true then people who are doing it should be held to account and if it isn't true then sena should be held to account for lying. Just because I don't follow a certain ideology of group doesn't mean I wish bad things to happen to people that includes sena so yes I think is matters.
    Generally speaking when people are getting death/r***/doxx/Other violent threats and wishes, especially professionals, they don't just post screencaps and stuff. I think Laura Bailey did once but that's no way the norm. But given how monstrous and pretty vile netizens are toward transpersons, I don't have to wonder if it happened. Even right wing trans people get shredded by their own. :/
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  3. #223
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kozh View Post
    >all bc I voiced a Final Fantasy character

    She sure it's just because of that? Not bc (from what I've seen) she's been an insufferable person on twitter?
    Nah surely couldnt be that right, couldnt be because its her entire personality and she talks about it every single day.
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  4. #224
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViaDesperare View Post
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    We have deduced that Wuk Lamat is a huge problem in the FFXIV story, causing the game to go against the wisdom used to rebuild it. The narrative and gameplay quality of the Dawntrail MSQ has shifted towards the direction that insults the player’s ability and comprehension. Thus, it is that we wish for the character of Wuk Lamat to no longer appear in the future.

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    Wuk though is very Japanese, a fact a western person like you, wont be able to grasp, as stuck in some kind of mainstream thing.

    This game is a Japanese game first of all, and most of all that is the target audience, it is not like them Marvel Heroes or whatever.
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  5. #225
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    Wuk though is very Japanese, a fact a western person like you, wont be able to grasp, as stuck in some kind of mainstream thing.

    This game is a Japanese game first of all, and most of all that is the target audience, it is not like them Marvel Heroes or whatever.
    Even the Japanese player base doesn’t like her. As evidenced by the Japanese character popularity poll they did recently where she isn’t even in the top 10 despite being the main character.
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  6. #226
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    Not sure I'd argue that someone's personality on twitter is reason to get death threats/etc, but hey, the forums keeping it classy as usual.
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  7. #227
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracewood View Post
    So... which one of you GAMERS(tm) are responsible for this?:



    Good going, you've turned this game's fandom like every other rabid terminally online gaming fandom. Hope you all are happy. Go ahead and justify and make it about yourself though, totally normal behavior yo.
    FFXIV community was on the "Light side" of the Force ingame only (mostly).

    This community has always been toxic outside of the game. Always. But most of the time it was toxic positivity and threatening / insulting peoples that said bad things about the game. It's not less toxic nor less problematic.
    For example I've been treated nearly as a retard (at best, as a psychopath at worst) by some just for saying that I liked that my character was the MC or at least highly relevant in the Lore like in some other MMORPG like GW2 or SWTOR and was disappointed in the direction of the game with Zero and Wuk Lamat (and just that, without any criticizism about Zero or Wuk Lamat as character) hoping for it to be just an attempt.

    Basically it's just that this expansion is, for the first time and far beyond Stormblood, the most divisive one, and there is now some kind of battle inside the community on a scale that never happened before.

    That being said, I don't know this person, not being an english speaker I don't play the english version (all my complain doesn't come from the dubbing since I find it quite well done in French and Japanese version). But she isn't just "voicing a Final Fantasy character". She is very vocal on twitter about her opinion and sometimes quite she is rather insulting in her message (and I'm more that ok with that, as a french I would be quite an hypocrite if I wasn't). But that combined with the exposure would have inevitably lead to this kind of things and probably mostly from people that don't even play this game because, well welcome to the internet.

    Edit : To clarify, I'm not saying that it's acceptable to receive death threat or anything like that, just that I'm on internet since nearly it's birth, and not knowing that it's "normal" (not acceptable still) when you are voicing your opinion is being delusional.
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    Last edited by Zackneifein; 08-04-2024 at 12:37 AM.

  8. #228
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    Even the Japanese player base doesn’t like her. As evidenced by the Japanese character popularity poll they did recently where she isn’t even in the top 10 despite being the main character.
    You can't really base it because whatever number on the list, whenever it get to it, it is not the point about anything and rather irrelevant as well.

    The main character in FFXIV is you the player.
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  9. #229
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    The main character in FFXIV is you the player.
    Pretty sure the main character of DT is Wuk Lamat

    Also how is a character popularity poll isn't relevant when it comes to whether or not a character is well liked by the community? It's literally about it lol
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  10. #230
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    Alassra Do'urden
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    You can't really base it because whatever number on the list, whenever it get to it, it is not the point about anything and rather irrelevant as well.

    The main character in FFXIV is you the player.
    Not in Dawntrail. Not in any definition that you can give to being the "main character".
    That's the main flaw of this expansion for me, and one of the reason Wuk Lamat is receinving more hate that she would have otherwise.
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