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    Hunt rewards should be disabled for voyagers (imo)

    I believe it to be unfair that players from other timezones can come to our DC (Materia) and spawn all of our S ranks while the majority of our population is asleep and will miss out on them completely, while we are deprived of the chance to do the same for other DCs. This has been happening consistently for a couple weeks now.

    I believe rewards should be disabled, at least for S ranks, so voyagers are not incentivized to come and spawn all the S ranks they can while the native population with regular sleep/work schedules (not me) are unable to participate.

    I understand there's nothing stopping natives from spawning them in the middle of the night as well, and it did happen occasionally, but in my opinion, it is a completely different thing when there's hundreds of voyagers running trains to pop every single S rank that has an open window while barely any of the native population is online.

    Thank you for reading, let's have a civilized discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wayneker View Post
    I believe it to be unfair that players from other timezones can come to our DC (Materia) and spawn all of our S ranks while the majority of our population is asleep and will miss out on them completely, while we are deprived of the chance to do the same for other DCs. This has been happening consistently for a couple weeks now.

    I believe rewards should be disabled, at least for S ranks, so voyagers are not incentivized to come and spawn all the S ranks they can while the native population with regular sleep/work schedules (not me) are unable to participate.

    I understand there's nothing stopping natives from spawning them in the middle of the night as well, and it did happen occasionally, but in my opinion, it is a completely different thing when there's hundreds of voyagers running trains to pop every single S rank that has an open window while barely any of the native population is online.

    Thank you for reading, let's have a civilized discussion.
    Why not do the same to them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malia_Chan View Post
    Why not do the same to them?
    Materia players are currently unable to visit other DCs, but other DCs can visit Materia freely.

    Even if it weren't the case, I would still be in support of disabling hunt rewards for voyagers, even if we could benefit from DC travel as well. I don't believe we should have to travel to other DCs and deal with the inconveniences that entails just to make up for the hardcore hunters who are happy to DC hop to min-max.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malia_Chan View Post
    Why not do the same to them?
    they cant. travel is locked.
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    i've felt this same way since DC travel launched, but it won't ever change. i think i actually made a post about this very same topic some years ago. it's very frustrating, especially if it's people from your own server doing all the work and someone from a different server doing the pulling. lol.

    off-topic but i genuinely don't like DC travel at all and preferred when each server had their distinct people.
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    I disagree. I think they should rework the hunt system so it's not dumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xellith View Post
    I disagree. I think they should rework the hunt system so it's not dumb.
    This.

    The biggest issue has always been that the hunts are insanely undertuned for the average player turn-out even before cross-server/world was introduced.

    It got even worse in EW/DT as the S ranks only have around 50% more HP then the release extreme bosses do when it was closer to 200% in ShB. A DT S rank has around 88 million vs. Valigarmanda EX's 61 million, whereas ShB S ranks had 27 million vs. 9 million on Innocence EX.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    This.

    The biggest issue has always been that the hunts are insanely undertuned for the average player turn-out even before cross-server/world was introduced.

    It got even worse in EW/DT as the S ranks only have around 50% more HP then the release extreme bosses do when it was closer to 200% in ShB. A DT S rank has around 88 million vs. Valigarmanda EX's 61 million, whereas ShB S ranks had 27 million vs. 9 million on Innocence EX.
    While I agree, this is a separate issue not related to what I made this post about. My complaint isn't that S ranks melt too quickly, it's that Materia's S ranks are being chain spawned in the middle of the night by voyagers while the majority of natives are offline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wayneker View Post
    While I agree, this is a separate issue not related to what I made this post about. My complaint isn't that S ranks melt too quickly, it's that Materia's S ranks are being chain spawned in the middle of the night by voyagers while the majority of natives are offline.
    Thing is even if you remove the hunt rewards many of them still just want the credit for the mount achievements so they'd be doing it anyways.

    I would not be against off-worlders being unable to spawn hunts (This is technically already the case for the ones that require timed nodes) for that reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn View Post
    I agree that it sucks that you can't leave but others can come to you. However, I'm 100% against your idea since your problem is temporary. Once DC travel opens up again, problem solved.

    Removing features will just frustrate a large chunk of the player base. Better to rework the system instead of adding random bandaid fixes.
    Even if we could visit others, having to hop DCs just to make up for the ones other voyagers killed on ours would be an extremely annoying inconvenience that would leave those who would prefer not to at a disadvantage, so I still think they should disable rewards for all voyagers across the board.

    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Thing is even if you remove the hunt rewards many of them still just want the credit for the mount achievements so they'd be doing it anyways.

    I would not be against off-worlders being unable to spawn hunts (This is technically already the case for the ones that require timed nodes) for that reason.
    If it's possible to disable nuts, tomes, etc for voyagers, I imagine it would also be possible to disable progress for achievements. Voyagers being able to spawn S-ranks would also have to be disabled to prevent petty griefing I would imagine. But for all I know, it's just not feasible to disable all that with the games code, I'm just expressing how I believe it should be handled.
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