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    Buying an EX Mount for 99 totems right away instead of waiting 8 months...

    Why do developers punish unlucky players?
    Why do some spend 10 minutes and get a mount, while others spend 17 hours (not counting waiting for PF, entry, etc.), and some even more time to make 99 totems. And then wait another 8 months. This is unfair to the players. If I went, learned the mechanics, spent time on this EX, got 99 totems, why can't I just go and buy it now? Or is this a punishment for being unlucky players? When reality has already punished you for the fact that you have never seen a mount in 99 runs, or you throw 1, 2 or 3..

    When I did 50 runs on the EX1 and saw the mount 3 times. And when I threw 1 on the first mount, threw 1 on the second mount and threw 3 on the third mount... and immediately remembering when every time I bought a mount for 99 totems that no longer brought a drop of joy. I'm no worse than other players who got the mount in less than 10 runs...
    I'm the same player who tried harder to get this mount now..

    I really ask the developers to make it possible to purchase the mount right away, I just beg you...
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    Last edited by Innio; 07-28-2024 at 09:57 AM.

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    I totally agree with this
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    FF does not have a lot in game that keeps it's rarity very well. Getting the mount early gives the, 'oooeh shiny' feeling. At least for a while till they let you buy it and everyone and their mother gets it and for many players it's no longer as special.

    Plenty people value that bit of exclusivity. Similar to having full BiS in early savage tier or the ultimate weapons soon after the release. Sure later on in time more people will have all those things, they get easier to get. But it's nice to have that time to show off your shiny thing for a bit.

    I don't mind getting the mount later. I appreciate the happy medium with the system as is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    FF does not have a lot in game that keeps it's rarity very well. Getting the mount early gives the, 'oooeh shiny' feeling. At least for a while till they let you buy it and everyone and their mother gets it and for many players it's no longer as special.

    Plenty people value that bit of exclusivity. Similar to having full BiS in early savage tier or the ultimate weapons soon after the release. Sure later on in time more people will have all those things, they get easier to get. But it's nice to have that time to show off your shiny thing for a bit.

    I don't mind getting the mount later. I appreciate the happy medium with the system as is.
    There's no prestige due to luck
    Prestige with savage and ultimate already exists. I'd rather they increase the totem trade to 200 for bragging rights while removing rng drop. I'd praise someone who cleared said duty 200 times for it than someone who got a lucky roll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    FF does not have a lot in game that keeps it's rarity very well. Getting the mount early gives the, 'oooeh shiny' feeling. At least for a while till they let you buy it and everyone and their mother gets it and for many players it's no longer as special.

    Plenty people value that bit of exclusivity. Similar to having full BiS in early savage tier or the ultimate weapons soon after the release. Sure later on in time more people will have all those things, they get easier to get. But it's nice to have that time to show off your shiny thing for a bit.

    I don't mind getting the mount later. I appreciate the happy medium with the system as is.
    I'd say if someone goes out of their way to clear a fight 99 times, they deserve to show off
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    Having rare items in an MMO is fun. Honestly I think the sudden amount of complains about the system is because more people want the mount, you'll get it eventually, why does it have to be right now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NovaStella View Post
    Having rare items in an MMO is fun. Honestly I think the sudden amount of complains about the system is because more people want the mount, you'll get it eventually, why does it have to be right now?
    What’s being rewarded by having the totem exchange locked until 7.2?
    It’s not skill. There’s no skill in pressing ‘need’ and letting a RNG decide if you beat 7 other people to be rewarded.
    It MIGHT be networking. Rewarding players for networking into static groups that never slot in fills, so that there’s a chance that all 8 players will get a mount before the static reaches 99 runs.
    But by your argument, why not just remove the random mount drop and make it only a 99 totem purchase? You’ll still get the mount eventually, so why should anyone be able to get it in 1 run when somebody can be on their 98th run in a group, and lose it to the 1st timer who dies off cooldown and gets a zombie carry?
    Maybe if the loot system made players unable to roll need if they come in below a certain DPS value for their role, you could make an argument this system rewards skill.
    But as it is, it really rewards nothing but sheer luck. And sheer luck is not fun, because it allows for no individual expression or achievement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlysCamoa View Post
    What’s being rewarded by having the totem exchange locked until 7.2?
    It’s not skill. There’s no skill in pressing ‘need’ and letting a RNG decide if you beat 7 other people to be rewarded.
    It MIGHT be networking. Rewarding players for networking into static groups that never slot in fills, so that there’s a chance that all 8 players will get a mount before the static reaches 99 runs.
    But by your argument, why not just remove the random mount drop and make it only a 99 totem purchase? You’ll still get the mount eventually, so why should anyone be able to get it in 1 run when somebody can be on their 98th run in a group, and lose it to the 1st timer who dies off cooldown and gets a zombie carry?
    Maybe if the loot system made players unable to roll need if they come in below a certain DPS value for their role, you could make an argument this system rewards skill.
    But as it is, it really rewards nothing but sheer luck. And sheer luck is not fun, because it allows for no individual expression or achievement.
    I never said anything about the totem exchange being a reward. I think it's just a nice way to include everyone eventually.
    I don't think you understand my argument at all, because I'd never argue for making it a totem-only purchase. You don't make it only a totem purchase because that takes away from it being a rare item. It's just a grind. Same reason no one really cares about high-gil mounts, you just grind it out and you get it, it's not rare. The trial mount is fun because of the exclusivity, even if it's RNG causing the exclusivity. Same with the Luckiest of Lords/Ladies title. Should that also be changed to only come from one of the maps you can buy, and only based on number of maps to remove any RNG?
    Some people get it easily and some don't by luck because... that's the fun of it. It's fun because it's rare because of RNG? Not a "anyone who clears the fight gets it" reward.
    My argument would actually be to remove the totem system and make it only an RNG drop. Rare things are fun because they're rare. That's the argument. In my opinion, SQEX is being nice by giving people a change to get it for sure even if they have to be a little patient.

    To summarize: I don't think the mount is a reward for skill. I don't want it to be. I think it's fun that it's RNG for a few months, because that makes it rare. That's it.
    I also don't have the mount, so it's not a "well I already have it" thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NovaStella View Post
    Having rare items in an MMO is fun. Honestly I think the sudden amount of complains about the system is because more people want the mount, you'll get it eventually, why does it have to be right now?
    Having money in real life is fun. Honestly I think the sudden amount of employees complaining about the system is because more people want their pay check, you'll get it eventually, why does it have to be right now?

    Crazy how I do 99 clears and I'm told I don't deserve the mount. Apparently doing 99 clears on patch when the content is at its hardest is underserving of the mount.

    Can you tell me why doing 99 clears today, not getting the mount, proceeding to never log back in for 6 months, and then logging back in on the patch they add it in suddenly means I deserve to have the mount? Why does waiting suddenly make me deserving when I literally cleared it 99 TIMES and gave up 13.2 hours of my life minus pf queue, progging, and wiping?
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    Gotta shove in reasons to stretch that sub money, one way or another!
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