PvP Machinsit solves PvE Machinist problems

[Lyth]

I wasn't aware about walking casts before this thread, but it felt very satisfying to use on testing. I'll caveat this with the fact that I'm not a physical ranged main and this should not be interpreted as a recommendation for or against on my part.

To answer Valence's point about cast cancellation, I think it depends on whether the developers could implement a channeled moving cast. Effectively, you would press a button, incur a movement penalty while held, and then regain normal movement on release. If you held it for the full duration you get the full potency, but if you release early you inflict the percentage that you charged for. If you've ever played Hanzo on Overwatch, it's basically the same idea. I think channeled effects, be it as stationary, walking, or even full movement casts could be one way in which Physical Ranged could distinguish itself from other roles.

I think it's worth brainstorming as a role right now, because if we're going off of previous release orders, they ought to release a Physical Ranged DPS one of the next jobs. If you want things to change for the role, now is the time to get your ideas in.

[Valence]

Machinist had big attacks no?

You misunderstand me: BLM has casting uptime constraints that can justify a more repetitive rotation, MCH has nothing.

[Valence]

I wasn't aware about walking casts before this thread, but it felt very satisfying to use on testing. I'll caveat this with the fact that I'm not a physical ranged main and this should not be interpreted as a recommendation for or against on my part.

To answer Valence's point about cast cancellation, I think it depends on whether the developers could implement a channeled moving cast. Effectively, you would press a button, incur a movement penalty while held, and then regain normal movement on release. If you held it for the full duration you get the full potency, but if you release early you inflict the percentage that you charged for. If you've ever played Hanzo on Overwatch, it's basically the same idea. I think channeled effects, be it as stationary, walking, or even full movement casts could be one way in which Physical Ranged could distinguish itself from other roles.

I think it's worth brainstorming as a role right now, because if we're going off of previous release orders, they ought to release a Physical Ranged DPS one of the next jobs. If you want things to change for the role, now is the time to get your ideas in.

I'd rather have rphys to have its own unique constraint, if possible not tied to positioning and mobility, which are two niches already occupied by melee DPS and caster DPS respectively.

I'm also reluctant with buttons to keep pressed since it completely changes the paradigm of mouse/keyboard layouts and which hands/fingers you use to move at the same time.

[Tunda]

I wasn't aware about walking casts before this thread, but it felt very satisfying to use on testing. I'll caveat this with the fact that I'm not a physical ranged main and this should not be interpreted as a recommendation for or against on my part.

To answer Valence's point about cast cancellation, I think it depends on whether the developers could implement a channeled moving cast. Effectively, you would press a button, incur a movement penalty while held, and then regain normal movement on release. If you held it for the full duration you get the full potency, but if you release early you inflict the percentage that you charged for. If you've ever played Hanzo on Overwatch, it's basically the same idea. I think channeled effects, be it as stationary, walking, or even full movement casts could be one way in which Physical Ranged could distinguish itself from other roles.

I think it's worth brainstorming as a role right now, because if we're going off of previous release orders, they ought to release a Physical Ranged DPS one of the next jobs. If you want things to change for the role, now is the time to get your ideas in.

it is not just satisfying to use but make sense!

We know that archer or gunner type of jobs have to aim and focus on most attacks
it makes sense to have walking casting so they aim correctly.. even if button canceled it should do damage but less

In this case we can finally have Black mage for physical range

[Zarkovitch]

MCH need some buff potency to rival the raid buffs of the other phys range but the class is quite strong compare to other phys range in terms of defense utility. A reprisal and tactictian. That's 25% mig.