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    Trust is bad idea.. Why not solo?

    Trust is bad idea latterly limits the gameplay with AI not that smart

    I know it is for people who want to play ffxiv without online players.. but why not giving the option of ability to play solo??

    Just give a black mage the ability to tank 3 mobs and use special actions like criterion dungeon.. instead of limiting the gameplay because of "trust" system..

    such a waste of money and resources
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    Leyna Crosse
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    To each their own, but I actually love playing through the dungeons with the npc.
    Their interactions and dialogue make the story far more engaging as a solo player.

    While I understand its not as fast as running dungeons with actual players, I feel its a fair tradeoff to have their dialogue and presence.

    Besides, if SE made them as powerful as players, we'd have no need to be playing an MMO with actual people.
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Adamantoise
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    Trust was a terrible idea in the first place, because they couldn't even be bothered to make it as good as the XI system they already had in place. In the effort of making an MMO cater to solo players, which, to be honest, is its own problem, they screwed over their story, because now we have to have 7 other NPCs suddenly appear. They had to neuter older dungeons because the AI couldn't handle them. And on top of all of those terrible decisions, still don't let players use them for all the content, which defeats the point in creating the system in the first place.

    And I'm not even talking about Savages, or Extremes here. You cannot complete the MSQ with full trust, because the final trials never let you do them alone. So what was even the point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    Trust was a terrible idea in the first place, because they couldn't even be bothered to make it as good as the XI system they already had in place. In the effort of making an MMO cater to solo players, which, to be honest, is its own problem, they screwed over their story, because now we have to have 7 other NPCs suddenly appear. They had to neuter older dungeons because the AI couldn't handle them. And on top of all of those terrible decisions, still don't let players use them for all the content, which defeats the point in creating the system in the first place.

    And I'm not even talking about Savages, or Extremes here. You cannot complete the MSQ with full trust, because the final trials never let you do them alone. So what was even the point?
    yes and now we have to not only program a new mechanic but to program AI to understand that mechanic

    double work.. just use special actions to make jobs omni role and that's it

    all that to just add 2 new lines that will increase my enjoyment 3% of the story.. wow what about dawntrail story which is 2 years of work to a story that is mid at best
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    To each their own, but I actually love playing through the dungeons with the npc.
    Their interactions and dialogue make the story far more engaging as a solo player.

    While I understand its not as fast as running dungeons with actual players, I feel its a fair tradeoff to have their dialogue and presence.

    Besides, if SE made them as powerful as players, we'd have no need to be playing an MMO with actual people.
    Thank you great feature but for what cost?

    Now we can't add new mechanic because not only we have to program it but we have to program an AI to understand this mechanic

    again double work for no reason.. which will limit the budget as Mr. Yoshi said "We have limited budget" yes thank you you are wasting it on AI that can be replaced by Special actions from criterion

    wow now we have 2 new lines that increases the immersion ..

    instead of caring about 2 new lines which will increase story enjoyment by 3% why not creating an actual good story? Dawntrail got the worst expansion review of all FFXIV stories.. which will destroy 2 years of work and reduce the enjoyment of falling into the story in the first place
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    Mint Goh
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    Better and more engaging than:

    o7
    o/
    Meowdy
    Lali-Ho.
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    Ari Fairlight
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    Shiva
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    Viper Lv 100
    I have to disagree.
    For me Trusts add a lot to story immersion with their interactions and dialogue. Without them there would be something missing.
    They also help me to learn the dungeon or trial in peace at my own pace which is why I usually do duties with Trusts whenever I run a dungeon or trial for the very first time.
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    Zellith Shivaan
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    Samurai Lv 100
    I just want to be able to duo with a buddy and 2 trusts tbh.
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    Reiya Rahamos
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    Ultros
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    You can kind of solo, but its usually only old content, and is basically unsynced, if they had to make it so you could run certain content solo then it'd take at least twice as long on every aspect of content design, basically making two versions of everything.
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    Jee Em
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    now we have to have 7 other NPCs suddenly appear.
    Yeah... DT is unfortunately riddled with this. That's probably also why they won't retire the scions, they need 8 NPCs for trusts.

    An option for the story would be to just say screw the 8-man party and do dungeons and trials with 2–8 people and adjust the party comp for various mechanics that are present as well as the damage output. Give us bonus actions for healing and we would be good.
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