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    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Adamantoise
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Trust was a terrible idea in the first place, because they couldn't even be bothered to make it as good as the XI system they already had in place. In the effort of making an MMO cater to solo players, which, to be honest, is its own problem, they screwed over their story, because now we have to have 7 other NPCs suddenly appear. They had to neuter older dungeons because the AI couldn't handle them. And on top of all of those terrible decisions, still don't let players use them for all the content, which defeats the point in creating the system in the first place.

    And I'm not even talking about Savages, or Extremes here. You cannot complete the MSQ with full trust, because the final trials never let you do them alone. So what was even the point?
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    Tunda King
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    Ragnarok
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    Trust was a terrible idea in the first place, because they couldn't even be bothered to make it as good as the XI system they already had in place. In the effort of making an MMO cater to solo players, which, to be honest, is its own problem, they screwed over their story, because now we have to have 7 other NPCs suddenly appear. They had to neuter older dungeons because the AI couldn't handle them. And on top of all of those terrible decisions, still don't let players use them for all the content, which defeats the point in creating the system in the first place.

    And I'm not even talking about Savages, or Extremes here. You cannot complete the MSQ with full trust, because the final trials never let you do them alone. So what was even the point?
    yes and now we have to not only program a new mechanic but to program AI to understand that mechanic

    double work.. just use special actions to make jobs omni role and that's it

    all that to just add 2 new lines that will increase my enjoyment 3% of the story.. wow what about dawntrail story which is 2 years of work to a story that is mid at best
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    Last edited by Tunda; 07-28-2024 at 04:19 AM.

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    genuine_stranger's Avatar
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    Jee Em
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    Zodiark
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    now we have to have 7 other NPCs suddenly appear.
    Yeah... DT is unfortunately riddled with this. That's probably also why they won't retire the scions, they need 8 NPCs for trusts.

    An option for the story would be to just say screw the 8-man party and do dungeons and trials with 2–8 people and adjust the party comp for various mechanics that are present as well as the damage output. Give us bonus actions for healing and we would be good.
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    Player Rekh's Avatar
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    Fresh Tree
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    Zalera
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    Warrior Lv 90
    I agree, or let us solo msq content as blue mage.

    It's less time consuming for the devs and their resources/time and allows the devs to create more complex fights without having to worry about Trust's bad ai/inability to adapt.
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    Nia Niyah
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    Hyperion
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    Trust was a terrible idea in the first place, because they couldn't even be bothered to make it as good as the XI system they already had in place. In the effort of making an MMO cater to solo players, which, to be honest, is its own problem, they screwed over their story, because now we have to have 7 other NPCs suddenly appear. They had to neuter older dungeons because the AI couldn't handle them. And on top of all of those terrible decisions, still don't let players use them for all the content, which defeats the point in creating the system in the first place.

    And I'm not even talking about Savages, or Extremes here. You cannot complete the MSQ with full trust, because the final trials never let you do them alone. So what was even the point?
    The funny thing is they dont need to spawn 7 other characters, just use the crystal but make it summon 7 randomly generated NPCS to fight
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    Shara Dei-ji
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Reimmi View Post
    The funny thing is they dont need to spawn 7 other characters, just use the crystal but make it summon 7 randomly generated NPCS to fight
    Or even just spawn in 7 Scions, it's not as if they're excluded from being summoned like random NPCs would be. They don't need to be in the cutscene before/after either. Not sure why SE is so stuck on the 7 people HAVING to be there.
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