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    Player
    Schwarzwind's Avatar
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    Ari Fairlight
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    Shiva
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    Viper Lv 100
    I have to disagree.
    For me Trusts add a lot to story immersion with their interactions and dialogue. Without them there would be something missing.
    They also help me to learn the dungeon or trial in peace at my own pace which is why I usually do duties with Trusts whenever I run a dungeon or trial for the very first time.
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    Xellith's Avatar
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    Zellith Shivaan
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    Phoenix
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    Samurai Lv 100
    I just want to be able to duo with a buddy and 2 trusts tbh.
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    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Xellith View Post
    I just want to be able to duo with a buddy and 2 trusts tbh.
    That and how slow they are is the only reason i ignore em
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    Selvokaz's Avatar
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    Reiya Rahamos
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    Ultros
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    You can kind of solo, but its usually only old content, and is basically unsynced, if they had to make it so you could run certain content solo then it'd take at least twice as long on every aspect of content design, basically making two versions of everything.
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    GTK0HLK's Avatar
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    Selene Halflight
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    Brynhildr
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    yes and now we have to not only program a new mechanic but to program AI to understand that mechanic

    double work.. just use special actions to make jobs omni role and that's it

    all that to just add 2 new lines that will increase my enjoyment 3% of the story.. wow what about dawntrail story which is 2 years of work to a story that is mid at best
    They could easily just script most of the movements if certain things occur.

    Player gets hit, heal, aoe goes off cause player needed healing. Certain mechanics going off simultaneously. script the more experienced npcs to safely get around.

    Script less experienced npcs to get hit by scripted aoe.

    it's not too excessively diverging that one affects the other.

    While the whole system undoubtedly affected older content.
    as they learn, the implementation will be less different between the two in MSQ tier content.

    And then there is the non-msq expert dngs that alot of expacs have, with no need of NPCs.

    As they're side content.

    The Cake can be had, and Eaten too.

    And soon enough, undoubtedly the whole bakery.
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    Tunda King
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    Ragnarok
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by GTK0HLK View Post
    They could easily just script most of the movements if certain things occur.

    Player gets hit, heal, aoe goes off cause player needed healing. Certain mechanics going off simultaneously. script the more experienced npcs to safely get around.

    Script less experienced npcs to get hit by scripted aoe.

    it's not too excessively diverging that one affects the other.

    While the whole system undoubtedly affected older content.
    as they learn, the implementation will be less different between the two in MSQ tier content.

    And then there is the non-msq expert dngs that alot of expacs have, with no need of NPCs.

    As they're side content.

    The Cake can be had, and Eaten too.

    And soon enough, undoubtedly the whole bakery.
    the problem with this approach now we have fights specially the old once scripted.. which will limit the replayability of the game..

    I know replayability for old content will not give engagement.. but what about new content?

    Now we are all in chackles because of this Trust system.. we can't randomize or create any new mechanic without double work..

    I would like to give you an example..

    Programmer always have saved scripts for each mechanic..

    when they use specific mechanic just link it with this script or copy and paste basically..

    Now if we want to create new mechanic.. we need to program AI new function to act when this mechanic happened.

    instead of that we could have 2 new mechanic instead of 1

    this is why its double work for no actual benefit
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    Last edited by Tunda; 07-28-2024 at 04:49 AM.

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    Glenfiddich's Avatar
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    Kitty Valentine
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    Shiva
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    Trust is bad idea...
    I disagree. Have you seen Y'shtola in her Bikini?
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Cyrus Vincere
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    Malboro
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    Viper Lv 100
    How would solo be any less limiting, if not more so, than the current Trust system that exists?
    Unless they gutted the damage entirely, how would you be able to survive stack mechanics? If they want to add the multiple towers that requires one person to stand in, how do you resolve it?

    They can't, unless you just face tank those mechanics in which case helps no one, at least with Trusts it provides players a way to get a feel for the mechanics before jumping into duty finder.

    This doesn't even include the extra lore bits they include for Trusts with the NPC dialogue, for those that enjoy that.
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    Thaelyn Arryn
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    Sagittarius
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Very simple solution, don't use it.
    I for one love trust and duty support. I have limited play time and can't always wait for the queue to pop, so this solution suits me and millions of others just fine. I will never do savage raids or anything remotely like that. I can solo some extremes and that's good enough for me. I take other things from the game. Things that I enjoy, and that includes running around with some of my favorite NPC's.
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    Don't look back, that's not the way you're going.

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    Wind-up Everyone
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    Zodiark
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    Arcanist Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Antharaes View Post
    Very simple solution, don't use it.
    That it exists impacts everyone regardless of whether it's engaged with by them or not.
    This is the issue.
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