2 melee 2 ranged standard

[W00by]

Exactly, plan.
It seems crazy to me to trivialize this aspect, as you are doing.

I'm not attempting to trivialize it. In fact, a lot of my discussion of why it's hard for RDM to use its mobility tools sometimes is a direct demonstration of me not trivializing it, because I'm explaining why it's hard to do! How can that be trivializing something?

It's not trivial, but just because it's difficult doesn't mean it's impossible. And the crux of my argument is that, while planning mobility is difficult for ALL casters, it's harder for some than others. PCT is on the easier end.

[Ggwppino]

I'm not attempting to trivialize it. In fact, a lot of my discussion of why it's hard for RDM to use its mobility tools sometimes is a direct demonstration of me not trivializing it, because I'm explaining why it's hard to do! How can that be trivializing something?

It's not trivial, but just because it's difficult doesn't mean it's impossible. And the crux of my argument is that, while planning mobility is difficult for ALL casters, it's harder for some than others. PCT is on the easier end.

My point is based that it all stemmed from the fact that rewd in his very first comment pointed out how what was written by Lyth was nonsense. And you attacked him by saying how the PCT is so extremely mobile that it implicitly legitimizes Lyth's comment. But it's crazy!

Having said that, I would put SMN in the easier end. Since it actually has practically nothing to plan. Not the PCT.
The PCT has a smoother slidecast in the first filler combo than the BLM.
But it has Motifs that last as long as a Despair but are cast more frequently. Furthermore, the tools are very similar (clearly not the same):
CIB -> Xeno
Hammer -> Triple
Smudge -> MA

[rewd]

My point is based that it all stemmed from the fact that rewd in his very first comment pointed out how what was written by Lyth was nonsense. And you attacked him by saying how the PCT is so extremely mobile that it implicitly legitimizes Lyth's comment. But it's crazy!

Having said that, I would put SMN in the easier end. Since it actually has practically nothing to plan. Not the PCT.
The PCT has a smoother slidecast in the first filler combo than the BLM.
But it has Motifs that last as long as a Despair but are cast more frequently. Furthermore, the tools are very similar (clearly not the same):
CIB -> Xeno
Hammer -> Triple
Smudge -> MA

I don't enjoy being this harsh but W00by has the bad habit of making things up and purposefully misrepreseting what you say so they can win an argument with themselves. Or at least they do with me, maybe I'm special.

They have done it again in this thread after I quoted someone that said PCT could be called a phys ranged. I said it was an insane take, he quoted me, mentioned me both directly and indirectly more than once and acted as if I said that it was insane to say that PCT has mobility.

If you pay moderate attention, you will start noticing their patterns again. Recently, for example, they said:

There are a lot of people here arguing that PCT is immobile

Can you spot these people? Neither can I, because they don't exist. As soon as I start noticing their patterns again, I just stop engaging because I know it's wasted time.

If other can find fun in this, more power to them - I don't.

[W00by]

Can you spot these people? Neither can I, because they don't exist. As soon as I start noticing their patterns again, I just stop engaging because I know it's a waste time.

If other can find fun in this, more power to them - I don't.

Forgive me, but Ggwppino literally just said "PCT is not very mobile by default."

You are not literate if you claim there is no one in this thread saying that PCT is immobile. Besides, I think arguing with someone who is saying PCT is mobile is a sort of implicit claim that it isn't. I am not misrepresenting anything.

YOU are the one who attacks people ad hominem in these threads, but I digress. Once again, I ask you to share a log that proves that you are a high level caster player and can argue against me based on merit, and once again, you won't 'cus you're not. I fully disproved your log analysis earlier, but you ignored that because you can't admit when you're wrong.

Argue with me on my merits or leave. Which you will, 'cus you can't.