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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    As far as we know, the rejoining does cause the souls to merge onto their source counterparts. Whether it happens on that particular souls next birth or not I'm not sure, but considering our character had 7 and then 8 "souls worth" of aether post Shadowbringers, I'd say evidence leans towards soon after a calamity.
    This confuses me, though. If we, 7- or 8-times-rejoined, were faded specters to the complete ancients, why were the 0-times-rejoined denizens of the First and Thirteenth exactly the same as us?


    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    The "Source" is the actual world itself. (the non-reflection world)
    Sorry, by 'the world itself', I meant the reflection. As in, the reflection's aether is returning to the Source, not the literal planet that is the reflection colliding with the Source, like what seemed like what was about to happen at the end of the Void quests.
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Quote Originally Posted by NegativeS View Post
    This confuses me, though. If we, 7- or 8-times-rejoined, were faded specters to the complete ancients, why were the 0-times-rejoined denizens of the First and Thirteenth exactly the same as us?.
    I forget the specifics in game, but my understanding is the sundering caused certain races to develop across all shards and the source itself. So that’s why we all look the same.

    If you are talking power or strength or literal levels or why some random dude on the 1st can put up a reasonable fight against you, it’s because it’s a video game. (As unsatisfying as that is)

    If the events in game were to be treated as “real”, we can see instances where our heroes do extraordinary things, especially with regards to taking down the Lightwardens- something probably suicidal to the average joe on the source. I don’t know if that’s necessarily because of having more aether or being lucky or just being a highly experienced adventurer, so fair point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    If you are talking power or strength or literal levels or why some random dude on the 1st can put up a reasonable fight against you, it’s because it’s a video game. (As unsatisfying as that is)
    They did to an extent explain that in Endwalker. Being Aetherically thin grants better access to Dynamis, so despite being weaker in one regard the reflections are stronger in another and balancing out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EusisLandale View Post
    They did to an extent explain that in Endwalker. Being Aetherically thin grants better access to Dynamis, so despite being weaker in one regard the reflections are stronger in another and balancing out.
    To expand on this, some jobs care about aether more than others (and some, arguably, about dynamis more than others). For the sake of argument, a shard where people have lesser aether might have say....more potent dancers or dark knights (or their respective equivalents), but potent mages would be in very short supply.

    Think about it. How many good mages were there on the First? Or on the Thirteenth for that matter? On the First, the only real cases we see from a caster standpoint that I recall were very specifically bred for generations to be the ultimate mage, and all that work seemingly paled compared to some of the greatest mages we've seen on the Source.
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