Weekly Gear Lockouts Kill Gameplay

[GartredZW]

SE shouldn't give the option then.

That's kind of what they did. Only that you can't play all classes with BiS during a raid patch.
It's actually the only part that gives our characters some identity. You're not just every class. You specialize in a few, and people in party finder, or your FC know you as what you do best.

[ReynTime]

Imagine being allowed to flex roles for endgame in a game that flexes the ability to use any and every job for content.

[Rolder50]

It certainly is strange how this game manages to be both the most and least alt-friendly MMO depending on which system you are looking at.

[luca20]

As someone who got BiS on every job in Anabaiseios, I don't think the weekly lockout on loot is an issue after the Anabaiseios changes (apart from the weapons which are truly awful) By the time I got 16 P12S clears I had gotten every savage drop I needed to gear every role and that was by doing purely PF and having weeks where I just got nothing. The real issue is tome gear, I did the math last tier and it took 36 weeks - NINE MONTHS - to get the 6.4 BiS on every job, or 41 weeks if you played SpS BLm instead of crit.

That said, BiS is really not needed outside of ultimates and savage criterion, anywhere else - even savage - you are good enough with just crafted (apart from later savage weeks where the ilevel lockout from players themselves) currently the highest ilevel you need to enter amywhere is 690 for extremes which you can get from your role gear and farming expert dungeons, anything higher its only to hit harder and get prettier numbers in a certain site. So altought I would like weapons to be much cheaper and tome gear to go down in price by the odd patches, I think the weekly lockout is a nessesary evil to keep the raids somewhat alive and to not allow people to burn themselves out (and of course, more sub money too)

[Stasya]

That's kind of what they did. Only that you can't play all classes with BiS during a raid patch.
It's actually the only part that gives our characters some identity. You're not just every class. You specialize in a few, and people in party finder, or your FC know you as what you do best.

- What's your identity?
- I specialize in PLD because I rolled greed on random weapon against 7 people


.... groans ..... not the rdm weapon again .... when nobody in raid can use it ....

[ApolloGenX]

As someone who got BiS on every job in Anabaiseios, I don't think the weekly lockout on loot is an issue after the Anabaiseios changes (apart from the weapons which are truly awful) By the time I got 16 P12S clears I had gotten every savage drop I needed to gear every role and that was by doing purely PF and having weeks where I just got nothing. The real issue is tome gear, I did the math last tier and it took 36 weeks - NINE MONTHS - to get the 6.4 BiS on every job, or 41 weeks if you played SpS BLm instead of crit.

That said, BiS is really not needed outside of ultimates and savage criterion, anywhere else - even savage - you are good enough with just crafted (apart from later savage weeks where the ilevel lockout from players themselves) currently the highest ilevel you need to enter amywhere is 690 for extremes which you can get from your role gear and farming expert dungeons, anything higher its only to hit harder and get prettier numbers in a certain site. So altought I would like weapons to be much cheaper and tome gear to go down in price by the odd patches, I think the weekly lockout is a nessesary evil to keep the raids somewhat alive and to not allow people to burn themselves out (and of course, more sub money too)

Yeah, or maybe it would help make those raids more accessible and more players would be able to use the content.

[Aurora428]

That's kind of what they did. Only that you can't play all classes with BiS during a raid patch.
It's actually the only part that gives our characters some identity. You're not just every class. You specialize in a few, and people in party finder, or your FC know you as what you do best.

"You specialize in a few"

Not really, I've played since Stormblood. There really isn't a single job that's a mystery to me and I'd like to play them all at the same level in a given patch ty.

Your identity is whatever your character decides to be at the moment. That's literally a selling point of the game lol.

Maybe become known as the great BLM in PF by just maybe, being a good BLM?

[DreadCrow]

SE shouldn't give the option then.

Just because you can play every class doesn't mean you need to have the best equipment for every class. If you just buy whatever gear is available for the current unlimited tomestone, you're usually gold for every bit of non-savage/ultimate content there is.

[Sivante]

I'm confused; perhaps someone can help me understand. What is the complaint against removing the lockout exactly? If people want the raids for glam, let them glam. If they want the stat gear, let them stat. If people want the challenge, let them pursue the challenge. If they want to gear all classes, let them enjoy that.

I don't think I understand the (I hesitantly call it this) justification for a lock-out. We do pay a sub to play a game, and paid a cost on an expansion: why must we pay these fees only to enjoy the game at a pace decided for us?

'Players will burnout if they get to raid too much.'
There's pocket content everywhere to burn out on. This isn't really a valid argument without also applying lock-outs to other material. No one would support a lock-out on PoTD but people burn-out on it often.

'People could sell runs.'
People can still sell ultimate runs. Lock-outing the raids makes no sense by comparison. Even if it did, who cares? People still sell housing plots, mount runs, etc. If you aren't going to treat the actual cancer, don't risk killing the patient with the radiation. Hell people sell ERP, I don't test a text entry lock-out to block that RMT.

I just don't think I understand how FF14 benefits from this, outside of stretching out sub time in exchange for aggravating some of the player base. I think that's exactly what SE loses sight of these says: how can a change benefit FF14, not just the yen of it. They don't get more from me either way, as I'll be blue maging, or PoTD'ing, or Bozja, or what-have you.

How does a feature that seems to annoy people and doesn't have any obvious indication of causing damage if removed, have justification to remain? I'm not trying to take stabs, genuinely I'm curious if I'm missing something there. The drip-feed nature of this feels a bit uh... frankly, infantilizing. People would be pissed if they had a netflix subscription that only let them watch X amount of drama shows a day. Let them go watch their K-drama or whatever, they paid.

I may come off as entitled and perhaps I am, but I do expect to pay for a service and recieve it, not pay for a service and be permitted to access some of it once a week. Equally I don't think SE would accept it if I were to say 'I'm only paying you 50% of my sub this year, as I only got to enjoy 50% of your service.'

This isn't unrealistic, is it? This is a simple business exchange. Please, feel free to correct me, I'm genuinely curious what logic makes this so steel-clad.

[Isala]

Just because you can play every class doesn't mean you need to have the best equipment for every class. If you just buy whatever gear is available for the current unlimited tomestone, you're usually gold for every bit of non-savage/ultimate content there is.

Ah, yes. How dare someone want to increase the power of their classes in a game that is literally designed around increasing the power of your classes. Why are you defending this absolutely trash system?